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The real crime here is downloading Chrome.
Firefox, for privacy protection.
I'm also greatly concerned by the Chromium engine supremacy on the Internet.
There are interesting privacy-focused Chromium-based browsers but I still refuse to use them. Google shouldn't have a near-monopoly on web rendering engines and on web "standards". Firefox is the only proper competition I can get behind.
Honest to god, the browser that wins is the one with the least bullshit popping up in my face when I open it
Firefox then?
Yup.
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That would probably be GNOME Web, because it literally does not pop up anything. Not on the first launch, not on any other launch.
But that’s really only helpful if you’re on Gnome, so Firefox, more likely.
These things aren't mutally exclusive. Edge sucks even on this level
Being slightly forceful might work, but being too forceful has the opposite effect. I've seen a lot of people avoiding Edge not because of its technical demerits, or due to lack of knowledge, but because MS forces it so much down your throat that something "feels" off.
I recently installed Edge for a technical reason and was instantly grossed out by all the stupid bling they’ve added to it.
I've used it at work since it often is the only installed browser and it feels like it's already infected by toolbars and other malware out of the box.
The new tab page reminds me of the weird ads you see at the bottom of tabloid websites.
On our company PCs we have both Edge and Chrome, after the latest Windows update a few days ago, every time I try to set Chrome as default browser, a window pops up saying something on the lines of "are you sure? please try out the fabulous Edge first, you might change your mind".
That annoys me to no end, first we are in EU, where Microsoft has been fined in the past for not allowing a browser choice, second, we're talking about Windows ENTERPRISE !!, keep that shit out of it, policies on PCs are decided at enterprise level, you can't spam users about it.
And not only that, but the stupid front page with stupid irrelevant news, some of which are literal, blatant attempts at fraud - "[random B-celeb from your country] has a money making tip They don't want you to know!" and that sort of shit - in the browser they relentlessly push, nag about or just "accidentally" reset as default every cunting week.
Dozens of popups, random notifications - like... why? What person with, I assume, at least half a brain stem in their head could possibly think these were good ideas?
"I don't give a shit, show me the web page and shut the fuck up!" has turned into a mantra when I have to use Edge. That's not good.
Somewhere there is a designer and or an engineer that was forced to make that stupid thing and they hated every minute of it.
Off topic but I love that people still remember Space Ghost Coast to Coast.
One of their choices should have been: "This survey is exactly the reason I am going to a different browser. "
Way too realistic, they don't want to hear shit like that. Way too true.
They really had the foresight not to add an "other" option. Says a lot
The Microsoft Edge marketing team is indicative of what’s wrong with Windows.
I'd say all of Microsoft, not just Windows.
MS is getting so thirsty it's pathetic. All the Win 11 garbage and now this. It's sad really.
I develop software that runs on Windows, so I have to use it to some degree. I would pay so much money for an officially-supported version that lets me cut out all the shit I don’t need and not deal with stupid thirst tricks. For the longest, I just ran Windows Server in a VM.
I always bypass ever launching Edge by installing with
winget install mozilla.firefox
Or just install Linux.
Everyday is the perfect time to switch to Linux and Firefox. Come back to computing!
I am awaiting my new SSD (already got 2 in there lmao) to dual boot into Linux Mint (though I suspect I won't remain dual booted for long at current trajectory.
Who wants to use any product or service this desperate to try and keep you.
I have to use Windows for work, and every single day, I open Outlook and I'm greeted with "WE RESPECT YOUR PRIVACY, please share your data with us." And every day I say "Don't share optional data." Clearly there's a fucking problem here.
No you misunderstood, that's "WE INSPECT YOUR PRIVACY"
But not Firefox? Lol
Chrome is where the market share is.
Also the 2 people per month downloading Firefox probably do it for privacy reasons, harder to convince them than a user using a Big Tech browser to use a different Big Tech browser.
Yeah, using Firefox is a real hassle compared to Edge or Chrome. It's really only worth it if you're hardcorde into privacy but barely usable for your average Joe /s
Desperate ex girlfriend, Microsoft.
I swear Microsoft, particularly the Windows and Edge divisions, have consultants on retainer directly from Hell - specialists in making things absolutely infuriating for no particularly good reason.
Thirstily?
I’ve uninstalled Chrome on all computers in my home. Back to Firefox with Edge as a backup browser if needed.
The article doesn't count the popups you get when you try to change your default browser
i don't trust chrome OR whatever browser microsoft wants me to use.
also to say i 'trust' firefox would also be an overstatement, but you could fairly describe it as, "I distrust firefox less" than either google or microsoft.
I never had this problem to put Vivaldi or any other browser instead of EDGE. Maybe i'm still with W10, maybe the last Windows which can be tamed. The only thing is that in Windows it isn't enough to declare the browser as default in the browser settings, you must do it also in the Windows default app settings too, but after this you'll never seen EDGE again, at least in W10.
I dont really use windows often outside of my work devices these days, but even if I did I wouldnt use edge as a primary browser based on how things rolled with IE6 and active X.
Yeah yeah youre a new friendlier Microsoft, webstandards and html5 are more locked in, and your browser is a chrome fork, and you "<3 Linux". I remember what you are and how you locked down the web when you had a chance. Personally I dont use chrome for the same reason given the direction google has been heading.
But to answer "why not Edge?": because you spent the better part of the last few decades sucking and amoral companies dont deserve the benefit of good faith.
Yeah this is the bullshit that drove me to linux. It may not be quite as easy, but when it fucks up it’s not because I was insufficiently a customer
What does Microsoft gain out of pushing Edge so hard. It's running on Chromium now, they're not going to break people's Google habits, they don't even charge for it.
So why the unwavering push?
Ad revenue from their startpage, Bing as default etc