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Femboy dilemma (lemmy.world)
submitted 2 years ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]
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[-] [email protected] 14 points 2 years ago

If I don't know it's a guy, he's functionally a girl, therefore the left doesn't apply. Now I just need to pull another bullshit philosophy argument to counter the one on the right.

[-] [email protected] 11 points 2 years ago

You’re not attracted by those who looks and acts like a girl.

If you really wanted to counter that, are straight people really attracted to everyone who looks and acts like a girl?

[-] [email protected] 7 points 2 years ago

I never thought about that. Thanks!

[-] [email protected] 5 points 2 years ago

You could argue the tomboy defense in the right side of it...

[-] [email protected] 14 points 2 years ago

This is literally just a repackaging of "are traps gay". The homophobia and transphobia don't go away because you said "femboy" instead of "trap"

[-] [email protected] 10 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Glad someone's saying it, big agree, the current obsession with "femboys" is literally the same shit with a different name, it's even using the exact same anime/game characters that people were calling "traps" a few years ago

(Edit: before someone complains, obviously I'm not against the existence of femboys, I'm against people spreading the same harmful "trap" memes wordswapped to "femboy", and how people still use it to describe characters who aren't even boys and are often closer to trans women or nonbinary)

[-] [email protected] 12 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Fuck it. I’m tired of being straight, where the femboys at

[-] [email protected] 10 points 2 years ago

I am so fucking tired of all the memes saying we are literally the same as women. I know that on r/femboy everyone is a trans woman, but some of us are actually male. I'm a trans man that likes to dress cute, that doesn't mean I'm functionally identical to a woman, femboy doesn't mean "looks like a woman" and if all you like is "femboys" you can't notice are male until you get to the penis congratulations you're just attracted to trans women

[-] [email protected] 9 points 2 years ago

trans women 🤝 trans men

Hating ~~trap~~ "femboy" memes

[-] [email protected] 10 points 2 years ago

It is the problem of attempting to describe the world with just yes/no statements without context. It works ideal with mathematics, but not in our complicated world.

As a straight, I can say they can be attractive.

[-] [email protected] 6 points 2 years ago

I guess it depends. You can find a particular femboy not attractive and it would route you to another place like "you might still be gay".

[-] [email protected] 4 points 2 years ago

Any inference is valid if its conclusion is known to be true a priori

[-] [email protected] 5 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Not really; an argument is valid if the conclusion is true only when the premises are valid. I believe the argument can be best constructed as follows:

  1. If you think femboys are attractive, you're gay
  2. If you don't think femboys are attractive, you're gay

Therefore, you're gay

Not only is this a valid argument because assuming the premises, the conclusion must be true, it's formally valid because it follows the form

  1. A -> B
  2. ~A -> B

Therefore B

And this argument is valid for all choices of A and B. It doesn't really have anything to do with the conclusion being true.

[-] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago

In other words, the argument is valid but not sound.

[-] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

Yeah exactly

[-] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

My statement refers to the construction of ==> from truth tables as a logical gate:

  • Both (False ==> True) and (False ==> False) are True; everything can follow from false premises
  • (True ==> True) is True; A true premise always implies a true conclusion
  • (True ==> False) is False; you cannot infer a falsehood from a truth.

By counting the entries of the table, we see that if Y is True, then (X ==> Y) must always be True no matter what we substitute for X. The joke is that this means we assume foreknowledge of the reader being gay

[-] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

Ah I see what you mean; you're right. Though an argument being valid and an implication being true are different things, so I think we misunderstood each other's meaning.

[-] [email protected] 3 points 2 years ago

You cannot decide my sexuality for me

[-] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago

is this like some kind of implied being gay is bad/worth mockery thing like all the rest of these memes are or what

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