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[–] 111 points 9 months ago (2 children)

FIAT failing so hard it gets to fail twice

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  • [–] 19 points 9 months ago (1 child)

    Looks like Dodge is in there twice too.

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  • [–] 26 points 9 months ago* (1 child)

    You mean the Dodge// and the RAM logo? Because RAM was split off into its own brand awhile ago for its trucks. Technically their new pickups are RAM 1500 without any Dodge branding. In practice though people still call them Dodge trucks and they still sell from the same place so nothing has really changed.

    Edit: and their work vans. And for North America. Not sure about the global operations.

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  • [–] 9 points 9 months ago (1 child)

    i worked for an insurance company for a while and you wouldn't believe how many people called in to complain that they couldn't find their trucks in the menu to get a insurance quote. They were looking under "Dodge" of course...

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  • [–] 41 points 9 months ago

    At this point in the car industry, the logos and brands are playing musical chairs with one another

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  • [–] 27 points 9 months ago (1 child)

    Don’t worry. Angry old white guys with maga hats and stickers of a little kid peeing on something, maybe a punisher sticker, will keep ram in business.

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  • [–] 21 points 9 months ago (1 child)

    Whichever company owns Chrysler has been flailing around from one financial disaster to another for my whole life, and I ain't that young anymore.

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  • [–] 5 points 9 months ago (1 child)

    I used to really like their sedans. The 300 was the last good car they made before they were tossed aside by Stellantis to make fucking minivans.

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  • [–] 6 points 9 months ago

    At least they still make minivans, everybody else stopped making them in favour of these ugly-ass "SUV" which are worse in every aspect except towing... There are only 4 options on that market now (well, five if you count the Pacifica separately from the Voyager/Grand Caravan, but it's more of a trim difference, so let's say 4.5)

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  • [–] 19 points 9 months ago

    this is what happens when you turn your company into a shadow bank instead of actually selling your work

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  • [–] 19 points 9 months ago (1 child)

    Is ram really failing? I see those shitty trucks spewing black smog everywhere around here.

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  • [–] [S] 17 points 9 months ago (1 child)

    Stellantis had a disastrous 2024. This is mostly a joke as they are still a massive company, but you understand losing 70% of profits in a year is quite the drastic thing for one.

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  • [–] 5 points 9 months ago

    That's a massive drop for any company, although I suspect the US manufacturing industry isn't doing well in general.

    I suspect the main reason is people become far more concerned with reliability and running cost when times are tight, and their vehicles are anything but reliable.

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  • [–] 18 points 9 months ago

    I feel sorry for opel. They made the most out of what gm gave them, now they're doing the same shit under psa.

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  • [–] 16 points 9 months ago (1 child)

    I don't remember seeing 1 jeep in China, but every mall has a Jeep clothing store.

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  • [–] 13 points 9 months ago (2 children)

    And Harley Davidson.

    They go hard on branding. They're one of the few motorcycle brands that let you go for a test ride (others might have a special event day at a dealership where you can ride around the parking lot). If you go for it, expect to be suited up in all the Harley leathers by the sales guy. It's not a motorcycle, it's a branded lifestyle where you ride around sometimes.

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  • [–] 4 points 9 months ago

    If only literally any other company had that branding. Why does the archetypal American bike have to be some 800 lb monstrosity that's constantly having minor mechanical issues, and impractical for going to work or getting groceries, or going around traffic, that absolutely sucks to pull onto a curb?

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  • [–] 9 points 9 months ago (1 child)
  • [–] 7 points 9 months ago* (1 child)

    It's sad. Peugeot used to make decent cars. But they have really not done well since dropping diesel.

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  • [–] 5 points 9 months ago* (2 children)

    I've been told my whole life to never buy Peugeot because they can't handle cold climates at all.

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  • [–] 6 points 9 months ago (2 children)

    After having owned a few if these brands I decided I'd only own some Japanese, German or Korean cars. Never Italian or French. They are great the first 5 years or so, but age like milk. Owned an Opel and it was pretty good, but I guess it's now off the list. Stellantis is the collection of the worlds least reliable cars.

    I drive a 26 year old Skoda (VAG group) which has had not a single major repair, except for timing belts, a clutch, and other consumables.

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  • [–] 4 points 9 months ago (2 children)

    Fiat stands for: Fix It Already Tomorrow

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  • [–] 3 points 9 months ago (2 children)

    Meanwhile Renault, also a Stellantis brand, has made 2 Car of the Years back to back.

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  • [–] 1 point 9 months ago

    I reckon the saddest story here is Abarth, coming from sports exhaust and tuning origins, to then making/tuning some truly impressive cars and a record list a mile long.

    And now it's Fiat slop of cheap EVs to balance Fiats 'green/emissions' score card. Itll truely be a sad end to a beautiful brand.

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  • [–] -5 points 9 months ago (3 children)

    Jeep is far from failing. And you’d have to pry my ram truck from my cold dead fingers.

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  • [–] 4 points 9 months ago

    Didn't Jeep just roll out a software update that was bricking 4xe models recently? Also quality has been plummeting (rust, death wobble, garbage 3.6L, etc) for years. They also just did a recall for over 100k hybrid models for fire risks

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