Government brain drain will haunt US after DOGE abruptly terminated.

After Donald Trump curiously started referring to the Department of Government Efficiency exclusively in the past tense, an official finally confirmed Sunday that DOGE “doesn’t exist.”

Talking to Reuters, Office of Personnel Management (OPM) Director Scott Kupor confirmed that DOGE—a government agency notoriously created by Elon Musk to rapidly and dramatically slash government agencies—was terminated more than eight months early. This may have come as a surprise to whoever runs the DOGE account on X, which continued posting up until two days before the Reuters report was published.

As Kupor explained, a “centralized agency” was no longer necessary, since OPM had “taken over many of DOGE’s functions” after Musk left the agency last May. Around that time, DOGE staffers were embedded at various agencies, where they could ostensibly better coordinate with leadership on proposed cuts to staffing and funding.

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[–] 285 points 9 months ago (4 children)

Many Americans may not realize this, but the actions of DOGE were effectively the destruction of their generational inheritance; decades and generations of taxpayer dollars to build an effective machine for doing the work of government.

That won't be rebuilt in a month or a year or even a decade. Its multi-generational damage which has been done.

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  • [–] 131 points 9 months ago (4 children)

    But just think of all the data that Elon Musk got to mine out of the government, to feed to his AI.

    Won't anyone think of the billionaires?

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  • [–] 83 points 9 months ago (2 children)

    The only way to recoup losses from the damage done will be an effective 99%+ tax on income, from any source, on amounts over 10 million.

    That and treason charges, followed by executions

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  • [–] 40 points 9 months ago

    I mean I'm all for the guillotines coming out. I think we should have brought them out on January 7th 2021 and start taking serious making things right then.

    But even a modest wealth tax (like every red cent after a billion becomes the states or off with your head).

    Like no amount of money can mend a broken heart? What was destroyed isn't something you can just throw money at to fix. There was a breach of trust between the smartest people in our society (NASA, NIH, etc..) and society itself, in the sense that the elected government is a reflection of society.

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  • [–] 11 points 9 months ago (1 child)

    It is part of why I want the Blue States to break off from the Confederates and build a fresh government. If you are going to replace what was broken, it should be only for people who appreciates what was lost. The MAGA are just going to bring out the chainsaw again...

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  • [–] 68 points 9 months ago (2 children)

    I've seen it first hand. I work as a consultant in public sector. Every where we go now the teams are crippled because people took the buyouts and left. Network teams that were 7 people reduced to 2 that are barely keeping things together. I'm sure NetApp, IBM, Microsoft, etc... love selling all these consulting hours now.

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  • [–] 22 points 9 months ago

    I was at a military industry conference a month or so ago, with several flag level officers giving talks. The total amount of lost years of experience and senior leadership in the military and intelligence agencies is staggering. It is going to take generations to recover.

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  • [–] 62 points 9 months ago (1 child)

    DOGE saw a 250lb body builder and said "Lose some weight, fatso!"

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  • [–] 35 points 9 months ago (1 child)

    @joyjoy @MicroWave As an aside, I knew a bodybuilder some years ago, totally jacked, like 3% body fat, all natural. Couldn’t get a life insurance policy because his BMI was something like 39% and he was classified as morbidly obese.

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  • [–] 41 points 9 months ago (1 child)

    I know this is a funny jab at BMI, which is an extremely flawed way of determining anything, but actually the risks of being a competitive bodybuilder with single digit body fat percentage are remarkably similar to being morbidly obese. Being natty certainly makes it safer but being jacked and being healthy aren't the same thing. The people you see on stage at bodybuilding comps are a short step away from needing admittance to hospital.

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  • [–] 21 points 9 months ago (2 children)

    Particularly on stage, or leading up to a competition.

    I had a natty buddy too. Had to lock himself out of the house and sleep in a tent so he wouldn't cave and eat in the middle of the night. Then same with water to get the paper thin skin and vascularity.

    They are starving and dehydrated.

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  • [–] 61 points 9 months ago (2 children)

    Duh it was nothing but a cover for the grift of billions of dollars.

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  • [–] 57 points 9 months ago (5 children)

    By June, Congress was drawn, largely down party lines, on whether to codify the “DOGE process”—rapidly firing employees, then quickly hiring back whoever was needed

    To consider this as an intentional "process" a person has to have zero empathy.

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    [–] 33 points 9 months ago (2 children)

    DOGE couldn't have possibly worked, ever. I think everybody knows a situation where there's an employee who is contributing far more than their own manager knows. So the point is that even if you asked everybody's immediate managers to decide who to lay off, you'd have huge mistakes being made.

    A central bureaucracy like DOGE is so much farther removed from that situation that it's not even funny. There is simply no way that it has the expertise to conduct layoffs, and it was obvious from the beginning. Companies facing layoffs know that they will lose unreplaceable employees, but they have to do so due to immediate financial pressures, nothing like what the government faces.

    So, DOGE was either a stupid idea created by absolute morons, or it was a cover for bad actors who never intended to do what they claimed. Or a little from column a, and a little from column b.

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    [–] 32 points 9 months ago (5 children)

    Efficiency-obsessed weirdos don't understand redundancies. All they see are inefficiencies, and think people can just make up for them in harder times by just "working harder", which for these weirdos just become a new baseline for even more cuts.

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  • [–] 15 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 child)

    For a man who is obsessed with space travel and claims we need to go live on Mars. He doesn't understand how much redundancy is critical to survival in space.

    Imagine a sci-fi spaceship... you are light-years away from civilization and any repairs. What if something goes wrong on your ship? Well? There had better be at least a half dozen back up systems to guarantee that you will survive instead of being fucked.

    You cannot apply just-in-time supply chain logic to space travel. YOU WILL DIE!

    No wonder SpaceX hasn't been able to get out of low-earth orbit.

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    [–] 28 points 9 months ago (2 children)

    Musk is a Nazi & should be deported.

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  • [–] 25 points 9 months ago (1 child)

    Elon Musk is Nazi he need kick out of America.

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  • [–] 16 points 9 months ago

    This is what happens when someone has a whole shitload of money but not a good understanding of the world in which he can spend it.

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  • [–] 15 points 9 months ago*

    Were they hired back at the same pay rate?

    I don't see anything in the article, or did miss it?

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  • [–] 15 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 child)

    One of many troubling issues with all this and the way it was handled is that these cuts were made too hastily. My former employer is a federal contractor whose income was some mix of federal, state, and private. Had there been sufficient time to reallocate staff and resources towards state and federal private funding, they/we would have had time to change our strategy and pursue those other lines of funding -- likely avoiding the massive monthly layoffs that have been going on in 2025. But that takes time, which was not something anybody had with the sudden, drastic, and unprecedented cancellation of federal contracts that did not leave any room for a smooth transition It was just lost jobs and shattered lives with little to no benefit for working class people.

    It may just be my circle, but my friends and colleagues who managed to keep their jobs pretty much all complain about how they're dealing with burnout now because they have an untenable workload but also the work environment is so stressful because everybody's still under threat of more layoffs. This is happening both in federal work as well as private industry.

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  • [–] 10 points 9 months ago

    They wanted people to feel that way. They explicitly stated they wanted people to feel defeated.

    “We want the bureaucrats to be traumatically affected,” he said. “When they wake up in the morning, we want them to not want to go to work because they are increasingly viewed as the villains. We want their funding to be shut down so that the EPA can't do all of the rules against our energy industry because they have no bandwidth financially to do so.

    “We want to put them in trauma.”

    https://www.propublica.org/article/video-donald-trump-russ-vought-center-renewing-america-maga

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  • [–] 15 points 9 months ago

    Doge was a grift, nothin more. It's always a fucking grift with those "people".

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  • [–] 14 points 9 months ago

    DOGE was nothing more than an entity to fleece the American people of resources and information...and likely to scrub some information that might incriminate certain individuals.

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  • [–] 10 points 9 months ago (1 child)

    It'll be a good day when seal team six is bin laden-ing this mangled cock ass hat.

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    [+] 6 points 9 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)
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    I hope they were able to negotiate higher pay to come back too and some kind of signing bonus since their last deal was broken

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