Chad Firefox on android with extensions vs plain chrome in android

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[–] 95 points 10 months ago (15 children)

I only have two extensions...

... and yet, that alone makes me loathe any other mobile browser that doesn't support them.

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  • [–] 15 points 10 months ago (1 child)

    I was using a friend's phone for checking something online the other day, and I was horrified at how much screen real estate was wasted on ads. I've become far too used to having adblock on mobile, and I had forgotten how bad it can be.

    I always find it jarring, because I'm so surprised that people put up with it and just accept it as normal. I get that I am an extreme outlier when it comes to my willingness to tinker and also my stubbornness that makes me extremely willing to spend a heckton of time to solve problems that are annoying me, but for many people, switching to a different browser and using uBlock would be trivially easy, but they just don't, even if they know that's an option. I don't understand the mindset that leads to it.

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  • [–] 5 points 10 months ago (5 children)

    JShelter and uBlock Origin here 🫡

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  • [–] 8 points 10 months ago* (4 children)
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  • [–] 2 points 10 months ago (2 children)

    Combine with uninstalling all YouTube apps

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  • [–] 19 points 10 months ago (10 children)

    And yet the GrapheneOS people recommend their own "Vanadium" hardened version of Chromium instead, for reasons I don't understand.

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  • [–] 17 points 10 months ago* (9 children)

    It is explained here https://grapheneos.org/usage#web-browsing

    They don't explicitly mention Firefox but:

    "Chromium-based browsers like Vanadium provide the strongest sandbox implementation, leagues ahead of the alternatives. "

    and

    "Chromium has decent exploit mitigations, unlike the available alternatives. "

    Since I myself lack the knowledge and skills to judge this, I have to trust the word of the developers.

    Edit, correction. They do mention Firefox

    "Avoid Gecko-based browsers like Firefox as they're currently much more vulnerable to exploitation and inherently add a huge amount of attack surface."

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  • [–] 20 points 10 months ago (1 child)

    Merely asserting something and explaining it to my satisfaction (as a developer myself) are two different things. I don't want to have to read through both codebases myself, but I would have liked the Graphene OS devs to cite some examples to prove their point.

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  • [–] 15 points 10 months ago (6 children)

    And the complete inability to block ads is just a non issue. Ok.

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  • [–] 16 points 10 months ago (16 children)

    It’s a shame they’ve trashed Firefox on iOS. Doing anything involving the home page takes over a second. Closing a tab and reshowing the Home Screen, even just showing the Home Screen without closing a tab takes ages.

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    [–] 12 points 10 months ago*

    If i am not mistaken google say "it's for stability" Stability my ass, if i want my browser being unstable with extensions then i'il do it, fuck google.

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  • [–] 11 points 10 months ago (1 child)

    Im shocked they haven't banned this.

    For a short time Firefox mobile got rid of extensions and man I have not felt so betrayed by a corporation as I did seeing those "update"s.

    I swear Mozilla always does its best to ruin any good brand image they have.

    It's gotta be a secret term to their default google search contract or something.

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  • [–] 8 points 10 months ago*

    This alone is why it's my main mobile browser but man they could really improve the UI. it's very sluggish with animations and components that aren't material for no good reason. the browser itself is also a bit laggy but i can excuse the page rendering.

    it's probably impossible to meaningfully implement, but if I could make a userChrome.css for the mobile app I would definitely enjoy it more

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  • [–] 8 points 10 months ago* (1 child)

    laughs in AdGuard

    Still love the 🦊 though.

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  • [–] 6 points 10 months ago

    Fuck chrome.

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  • [–] 3 points 10 months ago

    I wish the full page translation works for Taiwan mandarin. It can do China-nese but not Taiwanese or HKnese.

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  • [–] 2 points 10 months ago (4 children)

    Been using Cromite as my daily driver browser. It doesn't allow "real" extensions, but I guess devs built in Adblock Plus, which is really neat.

    Def wish I could have Old Reddit Redirect and my dark reader apps on it tho. Keep a Firefox browser around primarily for that.

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  • [–] 2 points 10 months ago* (3 children)

    There's a native dark mode in Cromite. Go to about:flags The setting is Auto Dark Mode for Web Contents and it has a few different settings to try.

    ...And while I love dark reader, it's quite chonky, even on desktop.

    As for old Reddit, I think you can edit host files on android?

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  • [–] 2 points 10 months ago

    "I think you can edit host files on android?"

    Hadn't considered this as a possibility. Thanks for mentioning it — I'll have a look into it when I get a chance to. Even if it doesn't end up being possible, it sounds worth looking into.

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  • [–] 2 points 10 months ago (8 children)

    What's interesting is that Google is developing a special version of chrome on Android that supports extensions

    https://www.androidauthority.com/try-new-chrome-for-android-with-extensions-3569268/

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