"To tell you honestly, I am a lot more hurt and upset by how Twitch handled it during and after the fact."

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[–] 270 points 10 months ago (4 children)

Emiru did a short stream going into additional details about the incident, as well as some other fuck-ups by Twitch staff that weren't mentioned in this article.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_USuIpVAqAw

tl;dw: Emiru calls out Twitch for lying about the situation in their official statements, expresses concern for what sort of response a smaller streamer would've gotten if they were attacked like this, and draws attention to Twitch's lack of security and professionalism. Twitch staffers originally laughed about the situation to Emiru's face, and didn't seem to care until the video went viral. They ran background checks on everybody who signed up for her meet-and-greet event, but the attendees were allowed to bring a plus-one with them, who did NOT have to get background checked. Twitch staff also allowed people to walk around even after their badges couldn't scan properly.

Also, because this isn't anywhere near the first time Emiru has been attacked in public, she points out that she's spent tens of thousands of dollars for her own private security, and wasn't even allowed to bring her preferred bodyguard with her because he's permanently banned from Twitch events due to restraining a stalker during a previous event.

Twitch fucked up big time here.

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  • [–] 186 points 10 months ago (9 children)

    Also, because this isn’t anywhere near the first time Emiru has been attacked in public, she points out that she’s spent tens of thousands of dollars for her own private security, and wasn’t even allowed to bring her preferred bodyguard with her because he’s permanently banned from Twitch events due to restraining a stalker during a previous event.

    What the fuck? They banned her bodyguard for protecting her and then asked her to come back without him? It's like they wanted her to get assaulted.

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  • [–] 23 points 10 months ago

    It seems like they need her at their event for credibility, but she doesn't really need them. They fucked up by not recognizing this, and now they are going to lose her drawing power at future events. And all they had to do was protect a girl from known weirdos. Nice job, dickheads.

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  • [–] 18 points 10 months ago

    I feel crazy for even saying it, but yeah, that is exactly what it looks like to me. Like Twitch staff specifically wanted this to happen, as some sort of revenge against her for mistreating their fellow predators.

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  • [–] 15 points 10 months ago (1 child)

    In fairness we're taking that comment as face value without knowing what level of violence "restraining a stalker" entailed.

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  • [–] 32 points 10 months ago

    From how she describes it in the video, he apparently held the stalker by the arm until police arrived. It doesn't seem like he roughed the guy up or injured him at all. It really seems like Twitch applied the "no touching" rule to the wrong person.

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  • [–] 89 points 10 months ago (15 children)

    I can imagine that this type of celebrity attracts the most unhinged obsessed fans with borderline personality disorder and/or other potentially dangerous and antisocial behaviors.

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  • [–] 34 points 10 months ago

    Certainly an environment that encourages a lot of people to just be nice to everyone in stream by default (except when someone is deemed acceptable to be yelled at and laughed at by everyone else for content...) and some people are lonely enough that they read a little too much into "HI [username]!"

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    [–] 77 points 10 months ago (3 children)

    Twitch seems like a shit company that caters to shitty people. So none of this is a surprise

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    [–] 70 points 10 months ago (42 children)

    You cultivate these parasocial relationships with people online who pay you for them. Like.

    You should be safe attending an event like this. And doing so doesn't give anyone the right to you, to hurt you, or anything about you beyond what choose to share.

    At the same time the entire streaming thing seems designed to prey upon lonely maladjusted weirdos, so while I'm not shocked that someone tried soemthing like this (I am shocked at how shitty the security was here), this isn't super surprising.

    The entire thing feels exploitative and gross for everyone involved, both the streamers and the people watching / paying them.

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    [–] 67 points 10 months ago (1 child)

    It sounds like Twitch staff didn't handle this well and Emiru is calling them out on it. Even though they claim the individual was dealt with immediately, it sounds like it took Emiru pushing for it for anything to happen and that they pressured her to do in person meet and greets when she felt uncomfortable about them. Curious beyond that how could Twitch as an organization make things safer for streamers like her.

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  • [–] 34 points 10 months ago*

    If by dealt with immediately you mean they let him go and just gave him a 30 day ban initially, then yes. She had to talk to her manager who then talked to Twitch who then upped that ban to a permanent one. And I don't even think the police has been involved yet.
    Amazon wanted to brush this under the carpet..
    I really miss the pre-amazon days of Twitch..

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  • [–] 55 points 10 months ago (5 children)

    "To tell you honestly, I am a lot more hurt and upset by how Twitch handled it during and after the fact."

    Man, I hate how hard I relate to this. I'm so used to creepy guys that it often becomes part of the background noise of being in public. I remember the first time I went to a kink nightclub, I was startled by how infrequently I was randomly groped; being in such a consent aware space made me realise how many people in a regular nightclub will use the crowdedness as plausible deniability in trying to cop a feel. That stuff is honestly so prevalent that the individual instances hardly bother me anymore (though thinking about how often it happens and how powerless women are to stop it does get to me)

    However, sometimes, something happens that goes beyond this, and makes me feel genuinely unsafe and violated. Often, it's scary because it represents an escalation of harassment, such as a coworker who becomes increasingly invasive. There have been enough times where reporting harassment or an assault has gone ignored (or worse) that now when it happens, I feel desperately anxious in not knowing whether to report a thing.

    Beyond the effect of the harassment on me, I feel that it's my ethical duty to report things like this. It would obviously not be feasible to report everything that was sus, but some things cross the line and need to be reported. However, my greatest fear in reporting something is that it may reveal the organisation to be shitty. The betrayal hurts more than the harassment. Even if it's a big company like Twitch, which you wouldn't necessarily expect to be giving a fuck, there's still the desperate hope that "the system" will respond to flagrant violations of codes of conduct (and also the law). It's demoralising when those in power act like sexual harassment and sexual assault don't have laws against them. This undermines the law, and makes it as though it isn't even there.

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    [–] 51 points 10 months ago (10 children)

    The streamers think they're the stars and partners with the streaming company...

    But the company is always going to treat them as products with incredibly short shelf lives under even the best conditions.

    Twitch doesn't view them as real people, and knows even if they do quit or are harmed even killed, millions of barely adults would kill to take their place.

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    [–] 32 points 10 months ago (1 child)

    Holy based technology community keeping me up to date on streamer drama

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  • [–] 28 points 10 months ago (5 children)

    I can't even watch anything on Twitch anymore. I used to watch moonmoon, gigaboots, cohhcarnage, northern lion, etc and I just stopped months ago. It's not fun anymore. I might tune in to watch desert bus or AGDQ but that's about it and that's just for background noise when those events are happening.

    But the site, overall, just isn't the same. Maybe the content got worse or I just grew out of it.

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    [–] 23 points 10 months ago (6 children)

    This is the event Hasan skipped because he was worried about a Charlie Kirk-like incident against him, right?

    If so, he may have made the right move it sounds like...

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    [–] 17 points 10 months ago (4 children)

    A lot of victim blaming in these comments, which I find pretty surprising on a platform that's supposed to be crawling with leftists and socially liberal people

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