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cross-posted from: https://lemmy.ml/post/37591511
ZohranCapitulator is the new hotness although the name isn't as clever
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i'm just tired boss
Dude STFU please
Is this comment directed towards me or Zohran? If it's the latter, I agree, there's no benefit to him saying things like this.
Yeah the latter. He has that Dem quality where everything he says makes me like him less.
Giving myself this 
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I think hexbear's rigid purity (which is why I'm here tbh) makes it vulnerable to this kind common of smear work. It's very easy to keep asking someone questions over and over until you have things that can be taken the wrong way and used to smear them with at least some portion of their base. - this is a common media tactic you need to immunise yourself against. The entire point is to turn away the most pure parts of the base.
I mean, whatever, it's electoralism, by our nature we have little interest in it; but saying "I'll have Zionists working for me" in one of the most Jewish places in the world is a factual statement, not necessarily and ideological one. It simply doesn't mean that Mamdani being voted in is a bad thing. And it's certainly not something to be upset about?
We have high standards, but regardless of what we think, he's a leftist pipeline whether he succeeds or whether he fails, similar to Bernie. Ideally, he shifts the bounds of what it's possible to think/support in the US leftwards a little.
My point, really, is don't let perfect be the enemy of good, especially when it's something we're not invested in.
Give me the strength to endure what I can't change, the courage to change what I can change, and the wisdom to know the difference.
He's a pipeline, definitely. A left to right pipeline. Getting leftists engaged and then getting them to defend Zionism is not moving anyone left, but it is definitely moving people right
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There is a difference in knowing something and saying it, especially as a part of a political platform.
I may know simply by virtue of being in America, I'll have interacted with a Nazi as a factual matter. That is different than me saying, "Yeah, I'll interact with Nazis," which is different than propagandizing the fact I'll interact with Nazis.
Is the media repeatedly going to attack this angle? Yes. It's why when I saw the NYT article where the author alleges he doesn't think Zohran is anti-zionist I ignored it as a nothing-burger. Getting caught up doing it yourself demonstrates this is a massive fucking misstep at best.
Do you think he'd make the same misstep if they repeatedly grilled him on whether he'd work with Klansmen? Or if they used the word Nazi or Nazi sympathsizers? I double he's planning on grilling his sanitation workers on what they think about white genocide and replacement or asking them their opinions on the Jewish question either. But we would still look at him sideways if he said, "I'll have white supremacists working for me," in this hellhole of a nation.
I've argued with XHS about his stance on Zohran, them saying this is a result of us rawdogging a cactus due to an inability for us to form any type of militant front is fucking Evergreen.
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he's a leftist pipeline whether he succeeds or whether he fails
can someone prove to me that pipelines actually exist, and are not just trying to make dems look better / more left / reformable etc.
The fact that almost a decade after Bernie was first ratfucked by the DNC, the American left still pins their hopes on a single mayoral candidate (in NYC of all places) tells you everything you need to know about this pipeline.
Bernie boasted one million strong volunteers during his 2020 primary campaign. You’d think that even after he got screwed again, it would have snowballed into a nationwide movement to run socialist mayor and city council candidates to take over the political machineries starting from the municipal level all across the country.
It’s almost amazing to see such energy dissipated into almost nothing right after Bernie conceded and failed to win a single concession, not even healthcare-related, at the height of Covid pandemic for the working class.
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Entirely expected yet still depressing to look at
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aYUjvI79uGc Patrick Stewart said it best.
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they must have him on weekly antidote injections
The CIA has his family in a small room under the Nevada desert.
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hahaha
Even in the 1940s American politicians had the sense to recruit Nazis into their political projects in secret. Zohran would be out there tweeting about how awesome Operation Paperclip is gonna be.
To see someone harming the interests of the masses and yet not feel indignant, or dissuade or stop him or reason with him, but to allow him to continue. This is an eighth type.
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