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[–] [email protected] 106 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

It's Lenovo. Stupid click bait titles.

Lenovo has the green light to see a portfolio of new enterprise-focused devices powered by Esper Foundation – a custom Android operating system – and bundled with a complementary mobile device management (MDM) platform.

[–] [email protected] 40 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The firm’s first device running Esper Foundation is the Lenovo ThinkCentre M70a, an all-in-one desktop PC fitted with an up to 12th-Gen Intel Core i9 CPU, alongside 16GB DDR4 RAM and up to 512GB SSD. It’ll be followed by the Lenovo ThinkCentre M70q, M90n-1 IoT, and the ThinkEdge SE30 v2 machines by the end of 2023.

What are you going to do on such a device running android?

Esper Foundation is based on Android 11 and has customizable branding, peripheral compatibility, quarterly security patches, and three years of support. The MDM system, meanwhile, remotely deploys, manages, and updates devices from a single view.

It's based on 3 years old android. Promises quarterly security updates and provides only 3 years of support. I fail to see why any business in their right mind would get this instead of a decent specs chromebook or even a windows computer.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Is this really better than proper Linux in any way? Other than native play store, which means you can run shitty phone apps stretched fullscreen. Not sure I see the benefit.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

Today.

Once devs see the use-case, maybe they'll build support for larger screens.

I use Android Subsystem for Windows on my laptop to run some Android apps that have data sync but crappy (or no) web clients. It's way better than a website, even with a non-native screen layout.

I can also see a lot of younger folks who grew up with mobile devices preferring the simpler UI/functionality of mobile interfaces (as frustratingly limited as I find them).

I hate to admit it, but I see a real use-case for this. Using something that's between a tablet and a laptop, with tablet battery life and weight, but a real keyboard and mouse, be great for say sales, techs, etc.

Guess we'll see.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Intresting idea for sure. I don't really see this working out on "normal" laptops and desktops, for the simple fact that mouse and keyboard support on Android Apps is usually terrible. But for 2 in 1 devices that are used a lot in tablet mode this could be great. But then again ChromeOS offers exactly that.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago (3 children)

This is interesting. I’ve been wanting to move to Linux forever with my work machine. I can’t due to a critical piece of software not working. It does work on android though. I wonder if I’ll need able to install this on another thinkpad.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Thanks! This is really interesting. I’m going to see how my work apps will run on it.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

What software is that? A lot of software works on Wine, which is very, very good these days. Unfortunately, its compatibility with USB devices is still not good, so if your software requires that, yeah, you're probably SOL.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Thanks! But Linux is about the inky platform they are not on.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

I use a Tab S9. The key for me was Nextcloud+OnlyOffice+Code Server. So yea, it requires a Linux server for me to use Android, but it works for me.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

It's okay for enthusiasts, but when you take this to people who handle finance and accounting, the first thing that they ask is 'where is excel?' It would be a failure, if there is no Microsoft Excel, in the corporate world.

Oracle couldn't force their employees to use open office, eventually moving to the Microsoft office.

I know this comment will be down voted but that's the reality.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] -2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Mobile excel is a pretty stripped down version.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago

That doesn't change the fact there is an Excel on Android. The original poster said it couldn't be found.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

most "enthusiasts", other than some android app developers, perhaps, won't even look twice at something like this

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

LOL at its chances of actually pulling that off