Recent reports have announced that Crunchyroll, the largest anime streaming service, will be replacing Aegisub with Israeli Software, OOONA, to produce subtitles more efficiently. Anime fans across the world are disappointed with this collaboration due to Israel’s ongoing genocide against Palestinians (via a report by the United Nations Commission of Inquiry).

Crunchyroll is also ignoring the needs of groups who require Closed Captions to understand the scenes better. They are isolating a large chunk of their audience in favor of AI-based subtitling, which defeats the point of a streaming service. Overall, this hasn’t been a great year for Crunchyroll, and this won’t be the end of it.

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[–] 215 points 11 months ago (6 children)

Fansubs have always been superior.

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  • [–] 52 points 11 months ago (2 children)

    There are barely any real fansubs left. Most are Crunchyroll, Netflix or Funimation restyled and maybe retimed plus checked if they spent a lot of time on it.

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  • [–] 30 points 11 months ago

    I'm an old pirate who remembers, and the thing, the raw ingredient missing in this scenario?

    need

    If it didn't exist, if there was no possible way to get a copy of somesuch Gundam episode whatever in english, some dude somewhere would cross the ends of the earth to get it onto the internet. Piracy is motivated entirely by utility and need, it's why music piracy atrophied into almost nothing until Soulseek arrived and streaming prices increased. Supply met demand, and it will again for fansubs.

    If it's needed, someone will meet the need. We did it in 1998, we'll do it next year.

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  • [–] 19 points 11 months ago

    That‘s how Crunchyroll itself started out if I remember correctly. Now look at it, completely unrecognizable. It‘s exemplary for how things have been progressing or rather regressing this century so far.

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    [+] 185 points 11 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (2 children)
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  • [–] 58 points 11 months ago (10 children)

    I'm doing my part!

    My renewal was literally tomorrow too. As these streaming services get worse, I keep on cancelling. Been two years for Prime (literally smashed cancel the day ads were announced) and all i've got left at this point is netflix and spotify.

    Netflix pricing almost has me there.

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  • [–] 105 points 11 months ago (9 children)

    All the streaming services are unethical now, both in pricing and operation. Netflix is maybe the least bad, but I can’t justify the cost for that, either.

    Stremio + Torrentio is the way to go.

    What happens next is like what happened in the 2000s. People will turn to piracy as legitimate content is no longer feasible, affordable, or ethical. Then the corporate oligarchs will crack down violently to make examples of the people they’ve given no other choice or recourse.

    It’s time to eat the rich.

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  • [–] 22 points 11 months ago

    Netflix charges me, a single guy, for 4 simultaneous streams if I want 4k. So I shared with my parents.

    Then they had the audacity to stop people from password sharing or to charge even more if you want to share. I set up an automatic email forward so my parents get every sign in related email.

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    [–] 87 points 11 months ago (2 children)

    Oh, didn't realize this. Had a rolling sub which I never bothered to cancel as I very occasionally watch with mates, but have now cancelled it.

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    [–] 61 points 11 months ago*

    When property is valued over people, piracy is protest. Pirating undermines a system that guards profit while neglecting humanity. Every download is a refusal to accept laws that protect wealth over well-being.

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  • [+] 56 points 11 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (15 children)
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  • [–] 39 points 11 months ago (3 children)

    Kind of miss how much effort went into fan subs, with notes explaining things that didn't exactly translate without context...

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    [–] 53 points 11 months ago (3 children)

    I would very much like a streaming service that makes it transparent what it actually spends its income on.

    Like - a streaming service where i pay $10/month and 90% of that goes to the studios/artists that actually produce the anime? I would take that.

    But right now i'm worried that i pay $10/month and 90% of that goes to the shareholders of the streaming provider as "profit" while the studio gets almost nothing.

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    And the Spotify ceo just stepped down so he could focus on weapons systems for Israel. The people running all of our media services are Nazis.

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    [–] 38 points 11 months ago (13 children)

    why not just pirate shit without a noble cause for once? You know - the old fashioned way

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    [–] 35 points 11 months ago

    Animelab died for this

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  • [–] 30 points 11 months ago (1 child)

    Well shit. If this goes through I'll have to cancel

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  • [–] 29 points 11 months ago (12 children)

    Ha fuck… that was my last personal sub… any alternative beside the high seas? I’m seasick…

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  • [–] 29 points 11 months ago (15 children)

    Honestly, piracy is easier than it ever has been. You can automate torrents or usenet downloads with the *arr suite. There’s a bit of a learning curve to get it set up… But once it’s running, it’s basically just “add show to your watchlist” and ~15 minutes later it shows up on your media list with full metadata, subtitles, etc ready to go.

    Plenty of people will suggest stremio, which is… Contentious. It works for streaming by downloading a torrent to cache. After you watch it, stremio automatically deletes the cache. So in day to day operation, it uses very little hard drive space and primarily relies on your internet speed and properly seeded torrents. But that latter part is the problem… Since it deletes the cache, it isn’t actually seeding anything in return. If everyone used stremio, nobody would actually be able to use it, because none of the torrents would be seeded. It’s a sort of mass prisoner’s dilemma.

    Technically, you can set stremio to keep a rolling cache of {x} size, and it will hold onto the torrents until you start to download something new and it needs that space. But very few people will expect to hit a 1.0 ratio, even with a decently sized cache.

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    [–] 29 points 11 months ago (1 child)

    The pirate life is the only life for me.

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    [–] 24 points 11 months ago (7 children)

    The problem here is that all these major anime providers are owned by Sony, so you're kinda fucked if you want to boycott them.

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    [–] 22 points 11 months ago

    Greed kills

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  • [–] 19 points 11 months ago

    Funnily enough, i was considering just today whether i should re-open my old Crunchyroll account. But i guess i won't do it now after all. IIRC there's been a streak of bad press about crunchyroll; like, this today isn't the only issue.

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  • [–] 17 points 11 months ago

    Ahh good ol' Aegisub. I have great memories of subtitling anime in my late teens before I got a girlfriend and the fansub scene died when Crunchyroll took over.

    I was also one of the people helping test Aegisub on Linux (2009-ish), I wasn't a programmer at the time but I remember a dude called 'verm' in the IRC channel who did a bunch of work to make Aegisub stable on Linux. He taught me the difference between little endian and big endian, I guess he was bored that day

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  • [–] 17 points 11 months ago

    Corporations can't stand it a logarithmic graph. They need freaking geometric progressions, and then they do stuff that gets them an anti-logarithmic graph.

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  • [–] 17 points 11 months ago (3 children)

    These mutherfuckers forgot where they came from! Time to remind them

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