So Tesla deliberately deleted the data and their executive lied about it under oath, but nobody's going to jail for obstruction of justice or perjury?
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Greentheonly, the hacker who helped recover the data in the Miami case, continues to probe Tesla Autopilot computers from a basement workshop strewn with circuit boards and soldering equipment.
That work is only becoming harder, he said, as Tesla is tightening the controls over access to vehicle crash data. “If an accident happened today like this, I won’t be able to extract the data,” he said.
If only we had a functioning regulatory system that would mandate access to this data.
It's honestly insane from a privacy perspective that the car can collect data that even the owner isn't allowed to see. The fact that this is normal is exactly why I won't buy a car made in the last 10 years or so
Tesla deleted crash information to bot be held liable. So they tampered with evidence, a criminal offense.
Now the investigation needs to start into who deleted that data and on whose orders and all those people will be sent to jail, right?
Right?
You know what, if a company can be a person with the same rights and privileges thanks to citizens United, why can't a company be jailed? Let's just say Tesla broke the law and must spend the appropriate amount of time behind bars, unable to do business.
Or make the CEO's liable, as they are responsible for overseeing the company. Fine the corporation, fine the CEO, and jail them... it seems they can't prevent their corporation from causing harm, and need to be held personally accountable
If their job is so high paying, I figure that's an acceptable risk of being a CEO. I'd take that offer—making damn sure I'm not having my assets seized and going to prison because someone else is corrupt/criminal
But... They didn't delete the data. The hacker found the data. It was there.
They lied under oath. Aka perjury. Also illegal.
Don't post pictures of text. Blind people cant read it. Just copy and paste.
How and why cars need regular access to the Internet I'll never know.
Do you want realtime traffic updates, live charger status, streaming entertainment, software updates, emergency crash response, Wi-Fi hotspot, remote alarm status and controls, remote telematics? If yes to any of those, then you have your answer.
Of course, simply having a connection opens it up for privacy abuses, just like a smartphone, there are number of reasons why consumers would want a connected vehicle.
What if the answer to a lot of those is either, "why would I want that?" or "we all have a device that dies that already".
- realtime traffic updates - phone
- live charger status - phone
- streaming entertainment - phone
- software updates - not without express approval
- emergency crash response - I see some value here
- Wi-Fi hotspot - why
- Remote alarm status and controls - no
- remote telematics - absolutely not
For sure, I agree the phone integration is a better solution and could easily take the place of any connection requirements for the vehicle, was just providing insight into why any consumer might justify it.
Why the manufacturers push it would be a totally different answer...
Why the manufacturers push it
- realtime traffic updates - subscription revenue
- live charger status - subscription revenue
- streaming entertainment - subscription revenue
- software updates - remove features, introduce bugs or send advertising so you buy a new car
- emergency crash response - mandatory by law in eu
- Wi-Fi hotspot - subscription revenue
- Remote alarm status and controls - subscription revenue
- remote telematics - they sell it (the user manual for the seat mii explicitly says that)
So are you one of those flying down the road staeing at your phone.
Android Auto and Car Play are both systems that allow phones to display content on the cars screens. I drive and older car, but installed a new head unit that has Android Auto. I have all the same features I want from a connect car, without it being connected.
My cars infotainment system is essentially a thun client for my phone. It works great. It connects automatically a few seconds after I start the car via Wi-Fi from my phone, so I don't even have to take my phone out of my pockwt when I get in.
No, your car has an external screen for your phone, so you look at your car the same way you would with an integrated system, but the connectivity comes from your phone.
… no. I don’t really have a need for most of that. And some of it is downright dangerous.
I saw the video of the dashcam, the driver is speeding at night in an unfamiliar country road and he's playing the phone. The "autopilot" disengaged dozens of times that night due to distracted driving, yet that asshole is continuing to override the speed limit while watching that fucking phone.
Did I understood right that the killer was able to settle for a monetary compensation instead of doing decades of prison for manslaughter?
A evil corporation lied to avoid legal responsibility for killing people? Unbelievable, I never would have guessed.
The "article" is literally just one paragraph?





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