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[–] 93 points 1 year ago (22 children)

Coming from a man, Woman's hair products come across as such a scam.

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  • [–] 48 points 1 year ago (21 children)

    It's not about men vs. women, it's short hair vs. long hair. Most men don't have long hair, the dish soap works for short hair but depending on your hair type you want to use something better for long hair.

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  • [–] 47 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    There's a lot of nuance to this topic I think. In my (VERY anecdotal) experience men often have thicker hair which tends to be less brittle less quickly. At least that's my experience as trans woman, around the time my treatment started my hair got slightly thinner and more prone to damage. So it's probably also a hormonal thing.

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  • [–] 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 child)

    Cis man here with long hair. My hair is super thin and breaks like crazy. I went to dermatologist (thought I was going bald lol) and it seems that hair changes a lot between people and some advice I've seen online isn't as general as much as people think, like not washing your hair everyday (she told me my hair NEEDS to be washed everyday cause it gets mega oily quickly).

    But yeah, longer hair needs more care for sure, like, I had never used hair conditioner before but now it's a must, started using a hair drier sometimes too. I used to think that women taking a long time to shower and get ready we're just slow but fuck, long hair is a lot of work.

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  • [–] 24 points 1 year ago (13 children)

    Long haired cismale here. I can use the cheapest shower gel and look magnificent.

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  • [–] 25 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    Good for you. My hair is frizzy as fuck and I can tell you there is certainly a difference between a $3 and $12 conditioner.

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  • [–] 15 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    I feel you. There's also a huge difference between cheap conditioner and no conditioner.

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  • [–] 8 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Water hardness matters a lot, too. When I visit my family and shower with their super soft water, I could use industrial degreaser and my hair would be just fine.

    But when I'm at home where the water is super hard? I better use a shampoo without sodium laureth sulfate and condition regularly or my hair will become an uncombable abomination within a few days.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago

    This actually might be the secret! I live in a hard water area but I’ve got a water softener for my hot water in the house. I’ll have to test this out when I visit friends next who don’t have a softener.

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  • [–] 11 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    I wash my very long hair 2-3 times a week and often get compliments from women. Many express some variation of "I wish my hair would grow that long" but none of them like the answer. "I do nothing to it. No heat treatments, no bleach, no color, no tight braids, no styling. Shampoo approximately every other day and condition weekly."

    (Dish soap would probably strip the natural oils too aggressively, even for short hair. Rough on the scalp.)

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  • [–] 62 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    As a guy with long curly hair, it is not that simple.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago

    True, when I plan well enough it's glorious: shower the night before, CG shampoo bar + stay in conditioner and I can just run my fingers trough my hair to style it the day after

    When I shower before an event it's a very thin line between too frizzy or too greasy and flat.

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  • [–] 31 points 1 year ago

    As a man who used to have long hair for decades, this is just wrong. But also, usually using more than one shampoo + one conditioner is not going to make much difference.

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  • [–] 24 points 1 year ago (6 children)

    My brother spent a week using dog shampoo because he forgot to buy new shampoo. Hair looked the same

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    [–] 19 points 1 year ago

    As a man with frizzy, dry and curly hair. I have to say "doubt" on the dishwashing liquid.

    More like "get that fat-solvant out of my sight, or you're gonna get it". No shampoo, only conditioner and you barely rinse it.

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  • [–] 17 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    Bold of you to assume the top half of my head still grows hair.

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  • [–] 15 points 1 year ago*

    Am girl. I don’t find that the kind of shampoos and conditioners really matter. I buy all kinds of volume ones for example, and there’s barely any difference. It’s more the styling that comes after. Getting a haircut that works for your hair helps too

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  • [–] 14 points 1 year ago

    Part of the solution is actually not washing your hair too much, or using too much product.

    Your scalp naturally produces a lot of oils etc to keep your hair healthy, and shampoo actually removes this to an extent. Conditioner helps, but it's not the same.

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  • [–] 14 points 1 year ago (5 children)

    The amount of upvotes this boomer shit has is just fucking embarrassing. Gender has absolutely zero impact on hair. It's all genetics. I'm male and my hair is long and thin as fuck.

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  • [–] 10 points 1 year ago*

    Hormones can play a role as well. Anecdotally, my wife's hair during pregnancy became fuller and less brittle. Duckduckgo "pregnancy hair". A monthly cycle, being on hormonal birth control, etc. will likely have some effect. I definitely agree that genetics does play a bigger role, but claiming that gender/sex plays no role is definitely incorrect.

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  • [–] 14 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    Relevant Screaming Trees:

    I nearly lost you there

    (Also, bring back 90s hair!)

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    [–] 13 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 child)

    Counterpoint: look at any rock band from the 1970s to see what just plain washing with shampoo (very occasionally, apparently) produces. If they ever invent time travel, I'm going to let everybody else handle killing baby hitler (and baby cheetoh I suppose) and go back to the '70s with some conditioner. I will rule the rock world!

    Edit: I might also try at least mentioning to people how fucked up it was that these guys were raping 14-year-old girls all the time (and sometimes the same 14-year-old girl).

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  • [–] 12 points 1 year ago

    "If it's good enough for penguins, it's good enough for me. 😎"

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  • [–] 9 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    Length and type of hair is what matters. Men with a typical short haircut with straight hair do not benefit from conditioner.

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    [–] 9 points 1 year ago

    Boys: now bald

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  • I literally don't use soap or conditioner in my hair except right before I get it cut. They are always like "wow! You have such healthy hair!" Your hair will take care of itself.

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  • [–] 7 points 1 year ago*

    It's mainly to do with longer and seldom cut hair being a lot harder to keep healthy than shorter and often cut hair is.

    Being a man or woman doesn't directly dictate the quality of one's hair, rather in the current cultural environment it influences how long one's hair is likely to be allowed to get before it's cut (and how much it gets cut) which in turn influences how healthy one's hair naturally is.

    Then there's also the whole concern with one's external appearence which again in present day culture is also different in average for men and women, with the latter under more social pressure to look well groomed.

    Plenty of guys out there with long hair have to go to a lot of trouble to make it look healthy when they actually try to.

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