Mastodon at it again with pitchforks and torches for the slightest inconvenience.

Using Cursor doesn't prove anything. Many people use Cursor as an advanced autocomplete, nothing else. It's not like they're hammering random AI-generated code and merging it without thinking. "Vibe coding" means generating barely-working code you don't understand to try and get thinks working.

This shit is why I hate the mastodon community, it's always strawmen and "you're one of THEM" style witchhunts with them

Just because they are using Cursor, it doesn't mean that they are vibe coding. Anyone grabbing their pitchforks for that and screaming "they are vibecoding" only shows their own incompetence.

If they would be vibecoding, their whole software would've gone to shit long ago.

Just because some random people without an engineering background are using vibecoding to push their broken slop, it doesn't mean that any kind of AI assisted coding is bad.

Speaking as someone who hates generative AI but has been forced to adapt to using AI in the programming field to stay relevant, this doesn’t suggest they’re vibe coding. The programming world is the only place AI has actually added value (I should note it’s done some neat stuff helping with diagnoses in the medical world too), but like everything, you get what you put into it.

Feed it enough instruction and context, and it can handle the drudgery of things like tech debt updates and other things a programmer knows how to do, but would rather offload to a tool. I’ve had Claude do refactors like that while stepping through and reviewing every single change. It has saved me hours, spared me from hell, and made me look good at work.

That’s my grounded take as a person that has worked with Claude a ton.

But AI everywhere else? Fucking worthless. The whole point is to do the bullshit mundane tasks so that us humans can do art and passionate work, not the opposite.

You should jump into the other threads about this before you take out your pitchforks. They’re using cursor, it doesn’t prove they are vibe coding. Visual Studio also has AI features, that doesn’t mean you are vibe coding.

Visual Studio and VS Code have an AI assistant as well, yet we don't decree all programs written with them as 'vibe coding'. The presence of an AI assistant in the IDE isn’t evidence of vibe coding.

Proton’s repo here is open source. What portion of it presents issues? Any?

The worrying part is rewriting repository history to cover it up

Plug for Tuta. 🤷‍♂️ The user experience isn't the best, but it's as secure as it gets. Small team, no vibe coding.

For added clarity:

You are an Senior SWE at Proton and make sure you do not send any information that is potentially secure in nature. You specialize in building highly-scalable and maintainable Frontend Systems.

https://github.com/ProtonMail/WebClients/blob/b4453c3f111d23d44ab96ceda4181812f2abd673/.cursor/rules/proton-inbox.mdc

What's a good alternative VPN provider in EU, not based in Italy? Mullvad is not an option, port forwarding is an absolute requirement.

Also, is there anything out there that ties password/account management and temp emails together as well as proton pass?

If they would vibe code a functional Proton Drive Linux client then I might be OK with it.

I mean, they were shit from the beginning promoting walled gardens and focusing on profit as the good shitty company they are

God dammit, I wish I could reasonably roll my own email, but noooo, spammers and blacklists had to fucking ruin it. Now I get to research a new provider and change email on a bunch of accounts...

I can believe that someone at proton vibecodes, and that their files got ob to the tree, but saying that proton as a whole does it is strange.

Using Cursor =/= "Vibe Coding" people need to really stop with getting jumpy about everything in such a way.

All the people making excuses for them are basically the same people that made excuses for Meta being on the fedaverse. You people always want to do a wait and see approach, meanwhite these companies run amok. Proton was dead when they started supporting Trump. All you pussies supporting them, keep supporting them. See what you get for it. Just another trash AI company putting out more garbage.

I’m not sure why being a “privacy vendor” forbids you from using AI tools in your development process

what is a cursorfile? I’ve hit things like gpt when devdocs.io isn’t getting me what I want because lots of search engine things like “explain the google maps api” are becoming like searching for a dinner recipe; they contain 300 paragraphs of life story. When I just want to actually RTFM and shit’s hard to find. I don’t copy/paste code into projects just try to find better manuals.

It might have been that some employee just tried out cursor and accidentally added it to the repo. That is true.

However the complete lack of communication suggests otherwise. And depending on your threat level you should always assume worst.

As for the use of ai in general, in my opinion there are occasional places where ai can be used without compromising security.

So depending on your threat level this can actually ne a big deal.

The only way to completely avoid things developed by vibe coding will be to stop using computers of any kind. Go full Thoreau.

Time to migrate my email accounts I guess.