Finland. Traditionally not a thing at all but each year the commercial aspects creep in more and earlier. Nothing about them can be contextualized further than "it's an American thing".
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That's pretty much what's happening here in Australia. I really only see halloween stuff in stores. I don't think anyone is buying it
Ireland and yeah it's a big enough deal here. To be fair Halloween started here.
Lol, itβs a big, big deal. Bonfires, dress up, trick or treat was all done as kids. Itβs a bit different to tv version in America, but that has crept in over time. However, itβs always been a big deal as a festival.
Food is different - monkey nuts, barn brack (sweet bread) with a fainne (ring), cloth or coin to predict the future. The pΓΊca. Fireworks. Bonfires. Public holiday. School half term. Change of seasons.
Not a big thing in Poland but it's present. Kids have fun going around their neigbourhood after dark (smaller ones usually under their parents' watch) hunting for candies, young-to-middle-age people get an excuse to throw a party. It's mostly a curiosity, not something people wait the whole year for or go out of their way to decorate their house like in the US. I personally don't enjoy dress-ups but if kids are having fun and the religious people are getting triggered because of a "western, non traditional, pagan custom", then I'm all for it.
Kids hunting for candies and adults having an excuse to throw parties is the main reason people enjoy Halloween in the US too. Of course, the season of scary is a ton of fun too. It's the only time of the year that everyone goes all-out with horror movies and haunted houses.
In Germany it's not a big deal. People have an excuse to get drunk at a Halloween themed party but that's it.
Germans use anything as an excuse to get drunk π
They try to sell plastic garbage in stores every year and hopefully it stays a niche thing that goes away.
It's not a thing.
The odd bar or club will have a "halloween" themed evening or something, but that's all there is.
Some kids go from door to door. Some kindergartens celebrate Halloween. But they are a minority. This is in southern Germany.
Interesting, where do you live?
Southern Germany for two decades, Switzerland for the last couple years.
UK - not really. less than half the houses in my area put up any decorations/leave out a pumpkin for it. though might be because I'm in an area with a lot of old people.
still fun to see though.
I'd say far less than half based on my experience - I've very rarely seen people putting out a pumpkin or other Halloween decorations in their houses.
The one aspect of Halloween celebrations that I think does exist in the UK is trick-or-treating, which I did do as a kid, but even then it's been probably over a decade since I last had a trick-or-treater knock on my door, though that may be partly a London factor.
trick or treaters in my area are mostly families going round with their kids
Hungarian here, and a lot of far-right nationalists hate it, so it de-facto became part of the counter-culture.
What's their problem with it exactly?
They think it's an anti-christian holiday, and thanks to recent revisionism, they now think christianity was first practiced by Magyars, thus Halloween=anti-Magyarism.
I'm getting real bored of all these people
thanks to recent revisionism, they now think christianity was first practiced by Magyars
I'd lovw to know the mental gymnastics behind this one.
Hungarian national mysticism, mostly built around the idea of that the Magyars did even less crimes in history than we often dare to admit.
Since a big issue was the genocide of pagans by Stephen I. (to the point barely anything remained of it), a large chunk of it is to rewrite the religion part of our history. Even crazier is that many of them assume we were the Huns too, and since there was some myth that Mary might have been a Hun princess, this also proves Jesus Christ was Magyar himself. It is often paired with the idea that the idea, that the Carpathians are "actually the ancient home of the Magyars, because Huns", thus denying the genocide of Avars, displacement of Slavs (this is very important, since Slovakia's territory used to be part of Hungary, and denying the legitimacy of a nation is a good gateway for ethnic cleansing Γ‘ la Russia), etc.
Looking at historic facts and evidence selectively, misinterpreting them, ignoring anything that contradicts them. Also, just making shit up and saying it with a straight face so you don't question them. It also helps that the time period isn't well documented so they can just fill the gaps with fantasy.
If you don't know much about history and don't look into their claims at all they can be surprisingly convincing.
Also that it's a foreign holiday that was imported to make money and taint our culture.
Some who are more into conspiracy theories also say that they want to push uniformity through American pop culture because "The Jewsβ’" want to make a one world government and enslave everyone.
They say it's anti-Christian because instead of practicing the Christian customs of remembering the dead and praying on this day, kids go out to party dressed as demons.
Source: my neighbor is a far right conspiracy theorist and goes on the same rant about it every year.
In (Madrid, at least) Spain, it's a sorta huge deal in schools, with every kid under 14-15 dressing up, a lot of schools doing costume parades, and many classes giving out candy and watching movies. But outside of school, it's all but ignored. You'll see little kids in costumes and a few bar events, but no trick or treating and no decorations.
The much bigger day/event is carnival, for which kids wear costumes again and there's a big parade in most cities.
In Norway and it's definitely becoming more of a thing. Growing up I never did it, but now I run out of lollies because there's so many kids out and about.
On the flip side, Norway does have their own Halloween style celebration where you go around dressed up and demand lollies from people door to door (julebukk - I'm not sure what the exact date for it is, and I think it varies depending on where you are, but it takes place between boxing day and up to and on new year's Eve) which I've definitely noticed has been declining the last few years. Maybe kids want to celebrate Halloween more than julebukk? Probably because on Halloween you can just, show up and demand shit while on julebukk you actually have to prepare a little song and whatnot.
Shame because like, julebukk is a) actually traditional and b) has some weird ass lore behind it. Like it's something about appeasing the Christmas goat (who may or may not be a demon saint Nicholas personally went down to hell to beat the shit out of until he agreed to help him)
Julebukk looks amazing!
It wasn't before but it is gaining a lot of traction here in Spain.
From the US so it's obviously big there, though it isn't quite what it was when I was a kid in the 80s and 90s.
Live in the Netherlands now and it's not much of a thing outside of the occasional bar deciding to make a thing out of it or maybe North American immigrants throwing a party.
My wife and I are planning to move to the Netherlands by 2030 and what we'll miss most is Halloween and Thanksgiving. We love the fall season of holidays in the US.
We'll definitely host some American-style Halloween parties if the neighborhood would enjoy them. And decorate our home outside if that's allowed.
Not a big thing here in Sweden either, although shops do their best to promote it. It gets a little mixed up with "Allahelgona" (all saints day) which is close. Halloween is on the 31st of Oct iirc, and Allahelgonahelgen is on the first Saturday after the 31st of Oct. On allahelgona you're supposed to remember your dead, so a lot of people visit graveyards and put our candles. It's usually very beautiful.
Scotland has a thing called guising, which is like trick or treat but without the trick. You're supposed to tell a joke or do something entertaining in exchange for the treat. Don't live there anymore so no idea how much of a thing it is anymore.
Slightly off topic, but why is there no AskEurope instance (is that the right word?) on lemmy yet? Or am I just too incompetent to find it?
There is no such community yet, the current flow of content allows to have both the news and the AskEurope questions here.
You might ask here how the community feels about the idea, that could be a good indication on what to do next
growing up in former eastern germany we had sankt martin's day (11. nov) as "laternchen" (small latern). it involves kids going door to door and singing songs in exchange for candy.
when halloween started appearing it was too close in date and too similar but seen as "worse" since the "trick or treat" thing seems more bratty lol