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[-] [email protected] 35 points 2 years ago

No it won't. We can't consume our way out of this. It'll be won in drastic legislation.

[-] [email protected] 3 points 2 years ago

Which means it won't be won.

[-] [email protected] 3 points 2 years ago

Probably. By the time legislators get on board, it'll be way too late. It's already too late, but it'll be too late to avoid even the most disastrous consequences.

[-] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

Yep. We're on course for the worst of it thanks to the oil companies convincing half the population climate change isn't even real.

[-] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago

Let's not forget all the paid politicians, shills, current deniers, and every single company that chooses profit over doing what's right (so, all of them). We're all culpable to varying extents. But people in power had a responsibility to the rest of us, and they chose greed and power when given the opportunity.

[-] [email protected] 24 points 2 years ago

So we're going to ambush oil billionaires while they're shopping for appliances?

[-] [email protected] 11 points 2 years ago

I love that the illustration is of solar panels being installed on a roof. I didn’t realize you bought those in the appliance aisle.

[-] [email protected] 11 points 2 years ago

omg nyt! sometimes you're so embarrassing

[-] [email protected] 11 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

It's an opinion piece, FYI.

Edit: gift link: The Climate Fight Will Be Won in the Appliance Aisle

So I went into the article with a skeptical view, but the authors point is that people's assessment of whether the I.R.A. legislation was effective will be based on their ability to navigate rebate programs easily, i.e., get rebate for things bought in the appliance aisle.

I can't say I disagree, but the article headline doesn't convey the content well. Basically the author is arguing about how you best win hearts and minds.

[-] [email protected] 10 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

No it fucking won't lol

[-] [email protected] 7 points 2 years ago

The fight for ad dollars will be won in the NYT opinion section

[-] [email protected] 4 points 2 years ago

One of the neatest things I've learned about on Technology Connections was an induction cooktop that used 120V electricity. It had a bank of batteries in it that would provide power for cooking without overloading the mains, and you could plug appliances into it in the event of a power failure and still be able to cook.

If you had appliances storing energy like that you could level out demand curves. And you can also store energy with heat. If we had temperature regulator valves on our water heaters, we could get them to 160-170 degrees when energy is cheap and let them coast down to 120. Heating water is one of the major energy expenditures for a home, so if we could get that to be 100% renewable would be a huge advance.

[-] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

I've heard it said many times. There are no silver bullets to climate change. Many solutions have to be researched, discovered, developed, and implemented.

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