I just collect them like candy. Oh, another tech board? Added.
I don't particularly care which community a post comes from. Subbing for me is so I am made aware of their posts. I honestly don't care where it was posted.
I would love for instances focused on their own topics. mandra.xyz is all about science and exploration. The only reason we dont have a gaming focused instance is that we simply havent done it
We just need a more user-friendly way for all the !gaming instances to be grouped together, with users having the control of adding/removing what makes up their personal !gaming on their chosen fediverse instance.
Maybe some functionality could be added to enable redirecting your local instance community to the more popular one? Is there any downside to something like that?
This will probably take care of itself with time. Not having any "official" ones dictated by some central authority is kind of the whole idea of the fediverse.
Agreed - this was my initial concern as well but now that I've gotten used to the structure here it doesn't seem like an issue. The whole Digg > Reddit > "New Monolith" wasn't ever going to solve the problem of enshittification, it would just buy us some time, and probably not much at that. This feels a necessary paradigm shift, and the multiple overlapping communities really turns into a failsafe more than an inconvenience.
They all still populate the same on a feed if you're subbed anyway.
They don’t though, my feed of the same community looks different on each instance due to the vote counts being different
This is a nothing burger. Who cares if there's a hundred different cat instances. That's already what it was.
There can only be one orange cat instance? Give it a fucking break
I largely agree with you, there's already redundant subreddits and such.
But I think when we're trying to capture a ton of Reddit users, anything that represents a hurdle to new user adoption is a concern. That goes double for things that are intrinsic to the Fediverse that aren't intuitive to new users like myself.
My proposed solution to this issue is a way to group subscribed channels. Like if I sub to x number of Games communities I wish I could drop them all in a folder labeled Games so I could browse all of those posts in one spot.
UI would be like Communities -> Subscribed (All) -> "Individual" folder hierarchy containing w/e you want.
in b4 the meta "redundant posts about redundant communities across the fediverse" post 🙃
The first site to figure this out def has the biggest chance of being “the one” right now
Yeah I this is my biggest problem, and there's always like 30 people saying "it's not a problem, it's a feature!"
Either they are in denial or I'm just completely incompatible with federation.
Why would I want 100 fragmented communities for the exact same thing? If I wanted to consume content from all of them sure, I could follow all 100 but that is so tedious. Plus what if I wanted to interact with them? I'd have to ask the same question 100 times!
Why would I want 100 fragmented communities for the exact same thing?
I believe over time it'll sort out and one community will be dominant. But the reason you want this is so whoever got c/canada won't be dominant. If the mod of c/canada was a QAnon lizardpeople nut, you wouldn't need to make c/RealCanada because there's not a single real c/canada. You would make c/canada@lemmy.ml
But also, many communities were spread out even in reddit. Like r/traa and r/egg_irl.
The reason you want a 100 communities over one is what is happening over on Reddit. Make one big thing, and greed will take over. Make many smaller ones? Is significantly less likely to happen.
The communities are also significantly less likely to grow. It's a double edged sword.
I think both sides have a point here, there are clear positives to federation and clear negatives. I hope a lot of the negatives can be overcome by streamlining the user interface and better apps.
I don't think it's a problem or a feature. It's exactly what we saw on Reddit before it grew. It's not like Reddit had a limit on the number of subreddits a topic could have. As far as I'm concerned it'll eventually sort itself out just like it did on Reddit. It'll just take time to establish which communities are the largest. Eventually people will stop posting/subscribing to the communities that don't have as many people, and the largest one(s) will win out, just like they did on Reddit. This is an issue that requires patience. In the meantime, subscribe to them all and post to the one that has the most subscribers just like you would on Reddit if there wasn't a clear central community.
Tbh this isn't even unique to Lemmy. Even on reddit, creating a new subreddit is free. If you don't like the moderation or the general vibe of a subreddit, create a new one and build the community that you like. with the ethos that you see fit. That's how there's r/gaming, r/truegaming, r/games, r/pcgaming, r/gamernews, etc.
Reddit also only allowed comments in 2008, and Digg v4 was released in 2010. Therefore much of the reddit "canon" was developed after the Digg migration (e.g. today you tomorrow me, cumbox, forthewolfx, swamps of Dagobah, discoball, jolly ranchers, double dick dude, taco show, broken arms). Digg didn't have custom communities. Reddit did. And now Lemmy has custom communities in infinite instances. If there's going to be a Quit Reddit Day (maybe July 1st?) like Quit Digg Day, we're in the forefront of shaping Lemmy.
I also struggle to see the issue here. People will subscribe to the various communities across instances, and they’ll quit the ones they don’t like, thereby making the best ones rise to the top, just like it works across subreddits of the same topic.
I guess the concern is discoverability? On mobile web, Beehaw’s homepage show “Local” (not sure if just Beehaw or all instance). It’s true that it’d be good if the default was “All”, so discoverability isn’t fragmented.
All on the homepage? Strong disagree on that one, I’d rather subscribed was the default. It doesn’t really matter since it is easy to change it.
If I want to discover new things I can click all myself.
Hah, yeah, that’s a good point. Right now (at least in Beehaw), it’s “Local” though, which feels like the worst of the three.
Yeah I think it is. If you go to settings you can change the default (under “Type”).
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