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Written by: Robert Shearman

Directed by: Joe Ahearne

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[-] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago

The first perfect, or nigh-perfect of the revived series.

This episode does a couple of things exceptionally well. Firstly, it introduces the Daleks to a new audience. In doing so, they take something that's unquestionably goofy-looking and goofy-sounding, and making it seem like a credible threat. The second the Doctor sees the Dalek, he absolutely panics, begging to be let out of the room. This leads to Eccleston spending the episode showing his true range, from that panic, to sorrow, to rage. It's superb.

Related to that, we get the more complete update on what, exactly, the Last Time War was, and how it has affected the Doctor. He's burdened by what he's done, and what he's lost, but won't hesitate to justify it, and even gloat about it if the situation calls for it.

The supporting cast is quite good, too. Van Statten is the sort of character that often doesn't land well on this series, but he works pretty well. Hiring an American actor to play the prominent American character helps a lot, and his dialogue seems more effective than "American" dialogue on Doctor Who often does. Anna Louise-Plowman is also pretty memorable in a role that would normally be a bit of a throwaway.

The episode is adapted from the Sixth Doctor audio story "Jubilee" - I've never listened to it, but the wiki summary suggests quite a lot was changed.

I guess the last thing I'll note is that the gimmick of Rose's DNA somehow repowering the Dalek is pretty silly, but its the sort of silly that makes a good story work.

I'm sure there's loads more to say - I'm looking forward to hearing what others think!

[-] [email protected] 2 points 17 hours ago

Yeah I think this was the first episode of the revival that was like "Okay, they're not fucking about with this" for me.

I've been saying for a while now that they need to recapture the feeling of this episode for the Daleks, where they're actually a significant threat. I think it's always tempting to have the big epic battle where the Doctor defeats all the Daleks all at once (which even this season did the next time they came back) but I think that kind of cheapens them the more you do it.

Just barely getting away alive should count as a victory when it comes to the Daleks, and doing something as big as destroying them all should be a Pyrrhic victory like the end of the Time War, not just the standard resolution IMO.

[-] [email protected] 1 points 17 hours ago

I’ve been saying for a while now that they need to recapture the feeling of this episode for the Daleks, where they’re actually a significant threat.

This is almost enough to be its own thread. I agree...but I'm also not sure it's possible.

There are certain villains in sci-fi that are set up for inevitable diminishing returns. Usually, it's because they are (a) immensely powerful, and (b) single-minded. I think the Daleks and the Cybermen fall into this grouping, as do Star Trek's Borg.

When you set up an enemy like that...it seems like you can only really use them once or twice before you have to start making changes. Either they have to get less threatening, because otherwise it's ridiculous that they keep getting beaten, or you have to start tweaking the "single-minded" aspect of them to find new storytelling angles.

With the Daleks, they've done both since 2005, to varying degrees of success. Hell, this episode does it to an extent, giving the Dalek a mutation to allow it to be unwilling to kill Rose, and eventually declare itself to be...not a Dalek, really.

But to keep them as a powerful, single-minded "kill everything" type of villain...it's just not sustainable, even though they're a powerful metaphor.

As much as I miss the crazy pepper pots, it's probably a good thing that the RTD2 era has given them a "rest" so far (though I quite liked Chibnall's Dalek-centred New Year's specials).

[-] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago

Agree with everything here, this is a great episode that hums along on the strength of its writing and performances. Eccleston's Doctor has a darkness that really suits where he sits in the timeline. Getting that first explanation of the Time War retroactively explains why he's such a dick in this incarnation: he's still deeply wounded by it but close enough to the man who did it that it very much informs who he is as a person, essentially still externalising that pain.

Something else that's interesting is that I feel this episode gives the impression that it was Nine/Eccleston who in fact took part in the Time War, while leaving things open-ended enough that that could change. Jumping ahead a bit, Moffat's earliest plan for "The Day of the Doctor" was to have Eccleston return. However, given his treatment at the hands of the BBC the first time around, Eccleston was unwilling to appear and we got the War Doctor instead. I'm not sure if RTD has ever commented on what it was he envisioned.

I've noted in previous rewatch discussions that I basically arrived fresh at New Who, but this episode reminds me that I did know Daleks couldn't go up stairs. The "ELEVATE!" reveal was a major shock to the audience and canon at the time. In addition to its general invulnerability throughout the episode, this was a scene that really hammered home the Daleks as scary. For people completely new to the series like children, it doesn't really mean anything, but anybody with a passing awareness of the show gets something in that moment to show them that Daleks are still able to do the unexpected. For adult fans, I could see this at least giving them a reminder of why they were afraid of them as kids.

The final confrontation is just amazing. That this episode manages to reintroduce Daleks, convince us they're a worthy threat, show us their true face and make us feel bad for them across 45 minutes is just excellent work from top to bottom. I'm a broken record on this, but that it's done in such a low-key and probably low-budget episode and not via an episode full of explosions and CGI is a testament to what the show can do at its best.

One thing I'll say is that it might have been interesting to call the episode "Metaltron" instead of "Dalek" to keep the surprise hidden, but I imagine that would have hurt it in terms of viewership. People definitely would have been excited to see the latest take on the Doctor Who enemy in a way that they probably wouldn't have been to see "Metaltron".

Sorry to be a downer, but I was curious why Bruno Langley, who plays Adam Mitchell ("Little Lord Fauntleroy"), seemed to drop off the face of the Earth a few years ago. If you don't want to open it, you can probably guess from the spoiler heading:

tw: saLangley sexual assaulted two women in 2017, for which he was convicted and sentenced to a year's community service and 40 days of rehab. He was made to wear an e-tag and added to the sex offender register. Nobody has hired him to act since. He's attempted to start a music career instead. No thanks.

At least he's not around for long!

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