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[–] 248 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (56 children)

And fifty years later we still mope around in low earth orbit. Progress has slowed down a lot since the billionaires took over.

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  • [–] 116 points 1 year ago (22 children)

    Fifty years later we have reached mars with drones and created space probes to expand our knowledge of space.

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  • [–] 37 points 1 year ago (5 children)

    We have even figured out aviation on mars so thats kinda cool :D

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  • [–] 19 points 1 year ago* (1 child)

    Incidentally, that mission was one of those surprising successes. The drone they sent was really barebones so it could tag along on another mission. Lots of people thought even doing that was a waste of launch mass. Nobody expected it to work all that well. It ended up working incredibly well and got used far beyond its planned mission until its rotor blades broke.

    Now the team gets to build a real one.

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  • [–] 21 points 1 year ago (8 children)

    We reached Mars with probes 50 years ago. I'm not in any way trying to denigrate the amazing achievements of the Mars rovers. But the fact remains that a human crew could have done all that and more (like drill a hole) in a few weeks at best.

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  • [–] 26 points 1 year ago* (7 children)

    The reason why spaceflight stagnated for 50 years is because IT came in the middle of it.

    All the smart people went to build computers instead of rockets, and now we have smartphones and the internet.

    Now that IT is stagnating (enshittification), smart people will probably go back to spaceflight.

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  • [–] 21 points 1 year ago

    They followed the money. The US Congress saddled NASA with a mandate for a Shuttle without funding it properly. The Russians never even developed crewed rockets that could do anything interesting beyond LEO. Everyone else wasn't doing much until the last decade or so.

    There have long been plenty of smart people at NASA, and they're wasted on poor funding and management. It has nothing to do with IT.

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    [–] 78 points 1 year ago (19 children)

    And since then - We have found ways to make all travel worse for comfort, more expensive, and more necessary.

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    [–] 73 points 1 year ago (17 children)

    It’s easy to see why people thought we would be a lot more futuristic by now.

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  • [–] 35 points 1 year ago* (5 children)

    i have a little tablet in my pocket that gives me access to the sum total of all human knowledge and can contact anyone else more or less anywhere on/around the planet for instant voice communication.

    We can take organs out of dead people and put them in living people and have them survive.

    I can be anywhere on the planet within 48 hours

    We have cars that can drive themselves

    We have robots being controlled live(ish) on mars

    We have planes that can stay airbourne indefinately

    And there's many more examples

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  • [–] 16 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Phones can also video call, lead you to just about anywhere you want to go on the planet, and store millions of pictures/videos/writings of a person's personal history. Unprecedented.

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  • [–] 16 points 1 year ago

    Yup, i was in three completely unfamiliar cities in the last month that speak languages i do not speak.

    I was never lost once, i was able to learn how to take public transport, and i was able to effectively communicate with people who do not speak english

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  • [–] 21 points 1 year ago (8 children)
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    [–] 52 points 1 year ago (7 children)

    Forget the moon. We're all within a few generations of the first people who had access to indoor toilets on a mass scale.

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  • [–] 49 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (6 children)

    Just a nitpick, the fastest transportation for thousands of years were boats.

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    [–] 43 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    Orville Wright (of the Wright brothers) also only died 21 year prior and was able to fly on a jet before his death.

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    [–] 42 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Feels like we're going backwards now with like anti-vax stuff. A lot of tech seems to be getting worse for users, too, like IoT gadgets that stop working for remote reasons

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  • [–] 41 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    One of the Wright brothers managed to live to see the end of WWII. Imagine the weird janky flying machine you and your dead brother designed in a bicycle shop in Dayton is being used to decimate Europe while boats full of the things are redefining naval warfare across the whole of the pacific before one drops a weapon so powerful that it becomes the basis of mutually assured destruction

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    [–] 41 points 1 year ago (16 children)

    A man named Peter, who had escaped slavery, reveals his scarred back at a medical examination in Baton Rouge, Louisiana, while joining the Union Army in 1863.

    Yup, that's far alright:

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    [+] 38 points 1 year ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (4 children)
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    [–] 37 points 1 year ago

    And destroyers.

    Just a few months into its reign, the US regime intends to ruin decades of progress in science and space exploration:

    On May 30, 2025, the White House Office of Management and Budget announced a plan to cancel no less than 41 space missions — including spacecraft already paid for, launched, and making discoveries — as part of a devastating 47% cut to the agency’s science program. If enacted, this plan would decimate NASA. It would fire a third of the agency’s staff, waste billions of taxpayer dollars, and turn off spacecraft that have been journeying through the Solar System for decades.

    Shutting down a working, completely functional mission like New Horizons, in particular, that may just be on the cusp of a huge discovery - it has seen signs of a new, second "ring" to the Kuiper Belt - is the ultimate repudiation of the American self-image as explorers of the frontier. And all of this at a time when the Chinese are just about catching up to "the West" in space science prowess.

    As a kid, I never understood what the Romans were trying to say with their Janus myth. Turns out that Orange Janus is simply the god of endings.

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  • [–] 30 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    In 1861 Russia abolished serfdom.

    In 1961 Gagarin reached space.

    It's just barely implausible a person born a serf could have seen their descendant explore space.

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    [–] 28 points 1 year ago

    My grandmother was an adult through that 66-year period. Lived to be 99. She rode to town on a horse as a kid and took trips on jets before she died.

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  • [+] 27 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)
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    [–] 25 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    Fossil fuels are a hell of a drug.

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    [–] 23 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Then the inherent contradictions of capitalism really started to hit, quantitative change passed to qualitative change and progress grinded to a halt and science and technology are regressing now in the imperial core.

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    [–] 22 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    And only 30 years after that, we're surfing the interwebz, sailing down the data highway at the speed of light. I'm running out of metaphors to chain together...

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  • [–] 22 points 1 year ago (15 children)

    It’s why a lot of sci-fi written in the 1900’s takes place in like the 90’s and 2000’s. Writers thought that we would keep on exponentially advancing and have Mars colonies and flying cars by now. They could have never predicted that interest in space exploration would have waned, like people stopped caring about the space shuttle, and that the actual technological revolution took place in the computing space.

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    [–] 19 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    otoh, people in both eras used gas powered cars, telephones, telegraphs, and manual typewriters. They could both go to movies, ride trains, and take ocean voyages.

    A person from 1903 would need a few days to adapt themselves to 1969 technology.

    But someone from 1969 coming into 2025 would be lost. Most people in 1969 didn't use credit cards, and had never seen an ATM. They used rotary phones and antenna TV.

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    [–] 18 points 1 year ago

    I've thought from time to time about how being able to see significant societal change in a person's lifetime is a very recent phenomenon. For many thousands of years, things stayed pretty much the same from birth to death unless you happened to live though a significant event. It's neat that I've gotten to witness change in a way that one would have to time travel to experience in the past, but monkey's paw, the change isn't always good...

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    [–] 15 points 1 year ago (6 children)

    And now everything feels stuck again

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