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[–] 78 points 1 year ago (19 children)

And since then - We have found ways to make all travel worse for comfort, more expensive, and more necessary.

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  • [–] 9 points 1 year ago (7 children)

    With internet, mobile phones, computers, travel seems to be way less necessary than before

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  • [–] 9 points 1 year ago* (6 children)

    I was referring to the city planners as @EtherWhack@lemmy.world correctly surmised.

    I also have worked from home* for almost two decades. But the non-work travel is still stained by the horrible planning in most urban sprawls.

    * For various strange definitions of "home". From a campground to an RV on a lake, and apartments in Switzerland to rotting farms in Alberta.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago* (5 children)

    I dunno for some years now city planners and their education has had increased focus on public transit, walkability, 15 minute cities and whatnot.

    I'd say combined with the car centric design being worse in the say 50's, 60's and so on and those times having no real means for remote work and less opportunities for communication remotely, I don't think we're at the worst point.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    Not in Canada. Not in the US.

    Over here we are actively gutting existing bicycle infrastructure to please the right wing morons

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    I mean weren't we all talking about our own areas?

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    I don't think I understand your point here.

    I was talking about my experience which is 80% in North America. Your points do not apply in North America as we have actually been getting worse for non-car travel in most cities since the 90s.

    And that's without even mentioning the atrocities that are considered inter-city or city-rural travel.

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  • [–] -3 points 1 year ago (8 children)

    more necessary

    I haven’t had a commute in over a decade

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  • [–] 17 points 1 year ago (5 children)

    I think they're referring to how vehicle-centric planning for cities is more common (as opposed to walking or human-powered locomotion, like biking or skating)

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  • [–] 9 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    That’s mainly the US though. Here in the Netherlands they are planning cities with the intent to discourage car use as much as possible.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

    Also Canada where the majority of my experience comes from. If I could see some my taxes going towards a Euro-style infra for moving people and things I would be a much happier person overall.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Move to Europe and you will get that change immediately

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago

    We actually did live in switzerland back in 2020 (I know, schengen is not EU) and were about to lease a home in France, but someone in my family fell ill and I had to come back to Canada.

    The transit, grocery , pharmacy, and cultural access was amazing to us, even in times when locals were complaining of severely limited services.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago* (1 child)

    Ditto. But the rest of the travel we do need to do to interact with people, amenities, and services, is still worse than it should be due to poor inter-city and city-rural transit. At least here in Canada. My time in Europe showed me how bad we really have it. Even with the unavoidable foibles that happen in the best of cases/countries.

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