The fact that he ever had an approval rating with Gen Z is mind-boggling.
I assume it had to do with the parents being supporters too.
Also the incel shits like that tate fucker being targeted towards young men.
That movement has done so much damage, there isn't a hole deep enough to throw manosphere influencers into
I would say the Mariana Trench, but I don't want to pollute the oceans.
Well the oceans already pretty bad. How bout we chopper them out to the plastic island and they can live on its surface, choking on old coke bottles for sustainance?
What's wrong with the classic volcano sacrifice?
Nah, right wingers have been actively targeting young people for decades, and still do now. They're literally playing Roblox with your children.
Want to know why there were so many conservative Gen Zs? Gamergate.
We can't pretend this is just passive, from the parent kind of stuff. The right has and continues to actively target children in their spaces in ways that us on the left just have too much integrity to. I'm not saying we should start counter-indoctrinating children, but we need to be realistic and honest with ourselves about the situation.
I think people forget that the 19 year olds voting for him were 10 when the “Grab ‘em by the pussy” shit happened. Not that it’s an excuse to not pay attention but a lot of the people who voted for him didn’t have the benefit of hindsight and spent the entire pandemic alone in their rooms listening to Joe Rogan and Andrew Tate.
Yeah, and it also feels "forever ago" when you're that age. Literally half their lives. So I could understand them thinking it's "old news", but when you're an old and crusty 40 year old, you know that a 60 someone saying heinous shit means that person is deeply twisted.
Hell I'm 25 and 2016 feels like a lifetime ago.
I was just at lunch, the table next door had a bunch of Trump gear on, even the teenagers. I overheard bits of conversation and it was totally normal stuff, which makes me wonder what attracts people to such a gross person
If you’re just watching the evening news and not looking into things further, Trump is not painted in such as light as we see in say articles linked here on Lemmy. Abrego Garcia? Well that was just one mistake. Mistakes happen right? I’m sure they’ll fix it. Then you move on with the rest of your life without giving it more thought. I think that is how seemingly “normal” people buy into this.
Media sanewashing honestly.
They treat a complete fascist as if he's a normal politician of a normal party.
That's how.
There's also a degree to which conservative media and conservative culture teach their people to act like they are more inline with the mainstream. There's old stuff that's been going on forever like using coded language so they talk about an "urban problem" instead of openly saying that black people are the problem or they'll talk about "New York people" instead of openly saying that Jewish people are the problem. If you haven't been exposed to that then some of what they're saying can sound somewhat reasonable.
Then there is the "respect" thing. Conservative parents are big about emphasizing how you say something over what you say. So they're fine with saying that disabled people should just die as long as it's not phrased that way. It should sound more like "It's sad that some people are sick but there are only so many resources and we need to put them where they're most productive. Hopefully their family can take care of them." It's more etiquette than real respect but they make a big deal out of it.
Gen Z was explicitly not taught how to read properly. It’s very difficult to not be conspiracist and think it was on purpose. Phonics was thrown out entirely for years. Teachers spoke up about it not working, and were forced to work the programs anyway.
When you're young you want to rebel against the establishment. They are being told the establishment wants rights for women and gays and men's rights are being taken away. So they are going the opposite direction to be contrarian. Unfortunately young men at that age have very little empathy for anyone else. They have to know what's in it for them.
He got a lot of gen z votes! Shit is Fucked up.
They get their news from social media and watch ufc
What amazes me is that there are still people who look at what Donald Trump has done in his life, what he has said and done to become president (twice!) and what he's done since taking office. They look at all this, take a big huff of their own farts and say "I approve of this"
I can't imagine that it takes anything less than a very special kind of cognitive disability to be intelligent enough to use twitter, but dumb enough to support this petulant, stroppy, bafflingly stupid man-toddler.
There has been a concerted effort for the last 15 to 20 years by the alt-right to court young disillusioned men and women using divisiveness and the slowly declining status quo as a lever.
Doesn't matter that the insanely wealthy right wing is primarily responsible for pushing the deterioration, it only matters that the insanely wealthy liberals in the government haven't done anything substantive to stop it.
For reference, see Nancy Pelosi's fucking dedicated ice cream fridge she showed off in an interview to seem relatable.
too late for post-nut clarity, kids. he's not just a person he's a cultural moment y'all embraced and is going to take a lot more of a "well maybe he's not that great for the economy" to unfuck ourselves from. how about some introspection about why we're attracted to narcissists or so deeply spiritually moved by shitty tough-man antics? where's that political analysis?
Yeah. But they saved Gaza.
/s
This is why they set up the bill to kick in after the midterms.
Yep it'll all be the Dems fault. Everyone will have forgotten about this bill and right wing media will push the lie. Easy money they say.
What's worse is dems might win and those same dumbasses that voted for them will question why they didn't unfuck decades of this shit in a single term and then sit on their lazy asses the election after.
And thus the cycle will repeat.
And even worse yet it'll be by the razor-thin 50:50 majority we always give them and they will STILL take the full blame in an endless cycle of self destruction.
"WhY DIdn'T YoU AMMeNd ThE COnstiTUTIon DeMS?! Wy nO ImpeAcH anD ReMoVe?!"
Yeah. They expect to lose the midterms. Let the bill kick in, and then blame the Democrats for it. ‘How could they let this happen?! Vote for us in 2028 to get your healthcare back’ or something like that.
How it got to any measurable levels in the first place is the real mystery.
Joe Rogan
Why does his approval rating matter? Even if those stats are valid?
Right? I see all of these "appeasement" style pieces trying to get us to feel some sort of vindication. It's all bullshit.
Those stats might affect the adoration of his groupies, and how many are re-elected.
Most horribly of all, we have Vance thinking he can step into the big orange footprints to be ordained next. We can’t have that weasel elected. It would be more of the same but more evil, less self-centered gibberish
IF it's from Newsweek, it's just a shitty clickbait title with nothing of actual substance in the actual article. Lemmy users need to stop posting Newsweek links, it is not a good source to trust.
It doesn't matter.
Just wait about 20 minutes, Newsweek will have a headline about fascism and GenZ. I loath that clickbait factory.
He could be the most hated man in history and it don’t mean shit if you don’t get off your ass and vote.
If you didn't recognize what he was after the disaster that was his first administration, all his admission of what he said he would do, and then still either voted for him or didn't vote because you didn't recognize the repeat threat he was and couldn't get off your fat ass to vote to prevent him from taking office, I'm sorry, but you're in the group of people who can't handle responsibilities of being a fucking adult.
Way too fucking late...
If the US still had free and fair elections, they’d be worried
This will have no effect on what happens to us going forward.
Approval rating collapsing after the election? Is that the modern version of the "closing the barn door after the horse got out" saying?
I guess better late than never but time will tell. 8 months ago would have been nicer...
27% approval rating, like, you have to TRY and get that low.
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