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[-] [email protected] 28 points 2 days ago

It's important to remember that the headline refers to the group Palestine action, which has carried out vandalisation of historical pieces, occupations of property, destruction etc (see here). So it's a group that fits the UK definition of an extremist group.

Some political groups (or even branches of them) can be political cults trapping members with coercive control It's not always idealistic well meaning people. The court that decreed them an unlawful group will have seen a lot of info we didn't.

I think we need to look deeper than the headline

[-] [email protected] 12 points 2 days ago

It's important to remember that the headline refers to the group Palestine action

Coming into this thread, thinking that you couldn't legally support Palestine in the UK anymore, I feel like the headline was just a bit misleading.

[-] [email protected] 5 points 2 days ago

Yep it's total clickbait, it's bordering on misinformation

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[-] [email protected] 3 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

By that very definition the US insurrectionists should be reintroduced to jail

[-] [email protected] 3 points 2 days ago

Double Jeopardy. You need to get them for something else... Not that it would be hard to find something, I guess

[-] [email protected] 3 points 2 days ago

I'd personally class that as terrorism. And they absolutely should be in jail.

[-] [email protected] 11 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

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2020ish...Two Presidents team up to create a world without Palestinians.

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[-] [email protected] 115 points 3 days ago

Just to be clear because everybody seems to be missing this point.

Palestinian Action, is an organisation. Membership of that group is banned, it is not illegal to support Palestinians or to call out Israel's genocide. The government doesn't like it when you do, but it's not actually illegal for you to do it.

This organisation broke into a UK air force base in order to protest. They are not being charged because they protested, they're being charged for breaking in and damaging a lot of military equipment. I think it's a bit far to call them terrorists, but you can sort of see the government's point, if you squint.

The UK government does however absolutely deserve to get it in the neck for their support of Israel. Labour have had a pretty awkward relationship with Israel in particular and anti-Semitism in general for a long time, and they're now keen to be seen as supporters, but there are limits.

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[-] [email protected] 52 points 3 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Not only is the ruling wrong - it is the very thing it claims to be opposing. It is itself an act of terrorism, carried out with the intention of inspiring fear in the British public to further a political agenda.

In every way, the British government is replicating the actions it accuses PA of - except that the scale of harm to British society and the terror inspired is magnitudes greater, and performed in service of the opposite political goal.

This is a terror attack by the government against the British people.

The British people's opinion and will are the thing from which the goverment gains it's only source of legitimacy - and they do not line up with the government on this issue.

But evidently the government believes in a different model of legitimacy: they believe that legitimacy is derived from the mere fact that they hold power. In the mind of the government and it's supporters, the difference between a terrorist organisation and a legitimate government is just power and only power. To them, right and wrong has absolutely nothing to do with it. They think that they are winning, and that they are going to get away with it. Nothing else matters.

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[-] [email protected] 33 points 3 days ago

Every British politician belongs in a mass grave. Just a total stain on humanity

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[-] [email protected] 226 points 4 days ago

Codifying your genocide support into law. Nice.

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[-] [email protected] 21 points 2 days ago

The Met statement (https://news.met.police.uk/news/update-on-policing-in-london-following-proscription-of-palestine-action-499157) includes a 'report your neighbour' statement; "If you see material supporting terrorism online report it – visit www.gov.uk/ACT

You can also report suspicious activity by contacting the police in confidence on 0800 789 321."

Use this information wisely.

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[-] [email protected] 161 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

The harder they push their pro-Israel agenda, the more anti-Israel everyone is going to get.

You can't bully us into supporting a genocidal regime.

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[-] [email protected] 24 points 3 days ago

Time to make a new group and to spite them call it "palestine 2 action"

[-] [email protected] 16 points 3 days ago

2 Palestine 2 Action

[-] [email protected] 35 points 3 days ago

That's good reason to remind people, that law is written by particular people, mostly to protect those people interests.

[-] [email protected] 13 points 2 days ago

At risk of sounding like that dipshit Vance, you guys don’t have free speech, not really. The uk seems to exist in a “yes, but no” realm. The press can’t report on trials such that it might influence outcome. 1988 law iirc. That’s smart, but it’s still a guardrail on speech. Some of the arrests and even sentences over there, for speech and sometimes even ideology related infractions, are a bit wild. I remember reading something about a woman being fined for calling her ex a leprechaun on social media.

That said, I feel a need to reiterate how crazy this defense of war and slaughter is. I’ve been a casual observer at best but I do not understand why either government cares if a people across an ocean (who are not and never will be boots on the ground for either side of this war) say they don’t like a war. So what? The war will rage on regardless of wether or not college students in Michigan walk around outside on a nice day holding signs. Or if some guy in London posts an objection on social media. That’s not even a speed bump to this war or either government if either government even sees or hears any of it. So why does either government even care? Why even spend energy on that? For them, it’s like a volume setting that maybe can’t be turned to zero, but in the end it’s just a bit of noise to them. So why bother? The war will continue. As such, their reaction makes no sense whatsoever.

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[-] [email protected] 10 points 2 days ago

Can someone explain why so many countries support what’s happening in Palestine? Whats going on behind the scenes here?

[-] [email protected] 9 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Most western countries have committed genocide or invasion in very recent history. Either in the context of WWII, colonialism or economic interests. Countries don't magically change over night. Wouldn't it be more surprising if they didn't support their ally?

[-] [email protected] 5 points 2 days ago

Most ~~western~~ countries have committed genocide or invasion in very recent history. Either in the context of WWII, colonialism or economic interests. ~~Countries~~ people don't magically change over night. Wouldn't it be more surprising if they didn't support their ally?

There. Fixed that for you. Dont have to thank me, its good.

[-] [email protected] 4 points 2 days ago

The idea that the actions of world powers are in any way governed by morality is largely a myth. Politicians will try to twist reality and use morality to justify killing people abroad and sometimes morality does align with their interests by coincidence.

But the motivations are always about furthering financial and strategic interests. See the overthrow of the Iranian regime in 1953 to protect oil interests, CIA coups and supporting murderous dictators in countless South American and other countries around the world, the recent Iraq war etc. If a government gets elected somewhere that would threaten our business interests (by taxing or nationalising them for example), we have historically supported bloody coups to remove them and install murderous facist regimes that enable us to keep making money at the cost of countless innocent lives.

Strategic in the sense that we prevent other powers in a region from becoming strong enough to challenge us. Keeping ourselves on top and in charge by keeping others down. Israel is a valuable ally in this regard - they maintain power in the region by keeping others down and keep them focused more on destroying Israel than attacking us.

Palestinian lives aren't important to our governments. They have no real power and there's no real profit to be made from them. Our strategic interest in supporting Israel will always trump any humanitarian interest in preventing genocide.

[-] [email protected] 5 points 2 days ago

Big Israeli lobby. Bribes and Epstein blackmail.

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[-] [email protected] 88 points 3 days ago

They are doing this because Palestine Action has been incredibly effective. They have already forced the closure of two factories in England that produce arms for Israeli defense company Elbit and forced Barclays Bank to divest through sustained sabotage campaigns. No person has been hurt by their actions, yet these actions have cost the genocide supporters millions of pounds and caused months-long disruptions to the production of weapons used in ethnic clean songs around the globe (Elbit weapons are fueling not just the Palestine ethnic cleaning, but Kashmir and DRC, too).

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[-] [email protected] 31 points 3 days ago

Feeding, housing and guarding someone for 14 years has got to be ridiculously expensive. All for uttering a few words.

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[-] [email protected] 22 points 3 days ago

There are few things I like about being an American, but one of them is the first amendment. It doesn't always work, and Trump is sure to try some shit like this soon, but at least I know for now I won't go to prison for saying that I do indeed support Palestine Action

[-] [email protected] 59 points 3 days ago

You could absolutely go to prison for it. A group of people in an unmarked van can grab you, send you to a prison in your country or even somewhere else, where you will be tortured possibly to death, and even if there will be an international fuss about it, nobody will ever do anything about it.
There is no more laws in your country, none.

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[-] [email protected] 21 points 2 days ago

As long they can send people to torture prisons without due process or evidence, we do NOT have a First Amendment.

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[-] [email protected] 97 points 3 days ago

Looks like the UK is going down the American road here. It's time for all those UK citizens that said, "Rise up now!" to Americans months ago....time to rise up! Give us a great example!

Oh, you can't because you have to work for a living? How about that....

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[-] [email protected] 79 points 3 days ago

I support Palestine action

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