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[-] [email protected] 69 points 1 week ago
[-] [email protected] 2 points 6 days ago

Thank you, I thought I was being too paranoid

[-] [email protected] 0 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

The star's geometry is all wrong.

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[-] [email protected] 50 points 1 week ago

That """"human"""" skeleton in the fourth item gave it away immediately. Now that I look at it further, "Isolation & Surveillance" and a picture of a megaphone??? "Fear as a tool of control" with a lightning bolt in someone's head??? Did OP even read their slop before vomiting it here?

[-] [email protected] 31 points 1 week ago

Also the color of the background. For some reason genAI uses that a lot.

[-] [email protected] 15 points 1 week ago

Yeah I've seen so much AI slop with the yellow tinge. It's kinda hilarious that we're watching AI model collapse in real time but the bubble keeps growing

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[-] [email protected] 16 points 1 week ago

What's wrong with the skeleton? It's stylised of course as these sorts of icons tend to be, but generally correct. Pelvis, spine, ribs, head, etc.

The megaphone seems like a very good way to evoke images of an abusive overseer controlling the camp's prisoners using technology of the modern day, an effective image for a section on monitoring and control, no?

There is no standardised symbol for fear within a person's mind, so again, a stylised symbol showing a lightning bolt is fine. Especially given that it is likely there on purpose - think shocks. Shocks of a different kind you may receive under an evil oppressive prisoner camp system (imagine the sudden shock in ones mind as a guard shouts or lashes out at you, I would certainly consider symbolising that in this manner).

It's as if you've never looked at anything anyone's made with simple clipart and the like before, and assume everything must be extremely deep and custom designed by experts?

Even if this were made with the help of AI, I don't see the message being any less valid, just because the person didn't go download an image editor to a PC, learn how to use it, learn how to import SVG icons and research for the most appropriate ones, build the image and export it appropriately, etc.

Not everybody is as skilled or capable as you or I may be in producing something that we might consider simple. Heck, some people only have a smartphone, not everybody has the luxury of owning a PC and proper software, nor the time or inclination to learn such tools.

The message in this image is conveyed very well, and is relevant to the current fascist regime's actions in the USA (and indeed is a universally important message).

If you want to suggest it's bad (or "slop", as you so evocatively put it) just because you don't like the image creator used to put it to print, well, that's a weird hill to die on, to be honest.

You better hope your country never duplicates the USA's slide into fascism, or you yourself may one day end up in a camp... or worse. How quick to attack the people trying to raise awareness of these abuses of human rights then, I wonder?

[-] [email protected] 2 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

that’s a weird hill to die on, to be honest.

Welcome to Lemmy (and Reddit).

Makes me wonder how many memes are "tainted" with oldschool ML before generative AI was common vernacular, like edge enhancement, translation and such.

A lot? What's the threshold before it's considered bad?

[-] [email protected] -1 points 6 days ago

Well those things aren’t generative AI so there isn’t much of an issue with them

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[-] [email protected] 15 points 1 week ago

What's wrong with the skeleton is, that it has a second head where an ass should be.

[-] [email protected] 1 points 6 days ago

I think it is a pelvis on the left as others have said. I have to admit though I thought I was looking at two skulls, probably because I was biased to look from left to right so I just accepted the left one as a skull and then the right skull actually looks like a skull. My first thought though was that it was an abstract depiction of overcrowding, so it was intentional to show two skeletons pushed close together.

[-] [email protected] 13 points 1 week ago

So the opposite of trump where there is a second asshole in his face

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[-] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago

nobody is gonna be reading all that lmao

[-] [email protected] 2 points 6 days ago

Someone owns stock in AI 💀💀

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[-] [email protected] 41 points 1 week ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

This might get me a lot of downvotes, but when ai 'draws' text it generates each individual letter which makes them a bit wiggly and often not on a straight line. The fact these are all grammatically correct sentences all on perfectly straight lines give me the impression this isn't raw output. Could be that the image was made with text later added on top though, but even the most advanced ai generators aren't this consistent with text.

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[-] [email protected] 64 points 1 week ago

Oh, you mean Alligator Auschwitz that was just built in florida?

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[-] [email protected] 36 points 1 week ago

This is fucking stupid. It's when you concentrate as group in a place. That fucking simple. And it's, it's always horrible

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[-] [email protected] 18 points 1 week ago

Informationen about concentration camps on TikTok because of recent events. Did not have this on my bingo card at all.

[-] [email protected] 17 points 1 week ago

6/6. Nobody does fascism like Donnie does! Everybody says so. Beautiful fascism!

[-] [email protected] 11 points 1 week ago
[-] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago

Arguably all of these already apply to most jails. So I guess it’s all on brand ?

[-] [email protected] 40 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Mass detention w.o. trial?
Targeted group persecution?
Harsh, inhumane conditions?

[-] [email protected] 11 points 1 week ago

Jailing doesn’t need a trail. It’s mostly thought of as „pre trail prison“

We all know there is a certain bias in the police force, and as well as some legislature being more towards some groups

There are many reports about jails being crowded and or unsanitary.

All in all, less in the nose stuff but still

[-] [email protected] 20 points 1 week ago

Mass detentions without trial?

[-] [email protected] 7 points 1 week ago

A huge chunk of the American carceral system is people in jail awaiting trial. According to the Prison Policy Institute 70% of the population of city and county jails are pretrial detentions. They can't afford bail so they are stuck in jail without ever being convicted of anything.

[-] [email protected] 1 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

I don't think this statistic should be that alarming. One of the main roles of the jail is to be the place where suspects are held pretrial. If convicts were taken to prison directly from the courthouse immediately after conviction, and if short term sentences were served in prison rather than jail, the percentage of unconvinced people in jail would have risen to 100% - and note that these are two technical changes that don't worsen the incarceration problem.

And there is a problem. I'm not saying there isn't. I'm just saying this number is not a good indicator of it.

[-] [email protected] 8 points 1 week ago

This is NOT the same thing.

People were sent to concentration camps on the basis of administrative decisions of the executive branch of government. They weren't awaiting anything, they were just locked up.

[-] [email protected] 5 points 1 week ago

When waiting for a trial can take a year to defend against an accusation that would typically carry a sentence in months, and when spending time in prison is one of the best predictors for whether someone will be imprisoned again later in life, the waiting thing is a distinction, but the difference it makes is uncomfortably close to being academic. Reminder: these are innocent people in the eyes of the law, so the decision to lock them up is made as an administrative decision (how high to set bail and how the court is scheduled) by the judicial branch, not by a decision that is based in the practice of justice

[-] [email protected] 2 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

They're both awful things, but it's important that the distinction is made.

Some places have been trying to do bail reform, but I believe the federal government has basically quashed that this year... Or are, at the very least, fighting very hard against it.

[-] [email protected] 1 points 6 days ago

It's a distinction without a difference. At the end of the day both groups are still random people the government has said "These are bad people trust us," and have not proven it. Pretrial detention still definitionally means they're being held without trial. It's just been decided it's okay in one situation and not the other. What does it matter if someone is theoretically "awaiting trial" if in practice they are just waiting the rest of their lives?

Yes, the immigration detentions are worse. But both are still fundamentally denying due process to those detained.

[-] [email protected] 1 points 6 days ago

It's a distinction without a difference

Absurd... Are you got real?

[-] [email protected] 1 points 6 days ago

The fuck do you mean am I for real? Yes let's compare this group of people getting arrested by "law enforcement officers" because "trust me bro, they're criminals and need to be deported," with this group of people being arrested by law enforcement officers because "trust me bro, they're criminals and need to go to prison," shall we?

One group gets no trial, the other gets pressured into pleading guilty regardless of whether they actually did the thing they were arrested for, gets as little as 5 minutes with their public defender depending on the location, and can still end up losing everything even if they're acquitted because of how long they were held for. Oh yeah, that's due process alright.

Of course ICE is the battle we need to fight right now, but let's not fucking pretend that this is some fresh horror we've never seen before. They just feel like they can get away with being more bold with it because "they're illegals" where they don't feel that way with poor people yet. They still feel the need to pretend we get due process.

[-] [email protected] 1 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

Either you're not paying attention to what is currently happening, or you're pushing some kind of agenda.

It is not a distinction without a difference, that's fucking absurd. Both things are awful. One could even argue that they're equally awful. Go for it. I'm not ranking awfulness here, just making distinctions.

What is happening right now is different and it's fucking important that people understand this.

[-] [email protected] 1 points 5 days ago

Do you know what "distinction without difference" means? It's when you present two things as being entirely different when they function the same way. By treating what ICE is going right now as some new "distinct" thing and ignoring how it's part of a broader issue you make it easier to ignore the whole issue.

Say we win and ICE vanished tomorrow. What is there to stop Red States from just weaponizing the regular old carceral system to effectively continue the same policy? How do you fight against it when you were so bent on saying "No, this is different," and everyone just shrugs because "Oh they're getting due process now. What more do you want? They're criminals,"

You don't have to say that this is some new horror we've never seen before to stress how bad what ICE is doing is. You're actively working against yourself when you make ICE out to be some extraordinary aberration and not the natural progression of American policing.

[-] [email protected] 8 points 1 week ago

Did... Did, you think this was a gotcha? Most jails/prisons are concentration camps.

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