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[–] [email protected] 45 points 1 year ago (2 children)

For people who hate the West so much, they sure are overdosed on Western pop culture.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Oh, they all love capitalism. So obsessed with brands, products and consumerism.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Red capitalism. What a concept. Guess it's the equivalent of El Che t-shirts.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

You know what's hilarious? According to the book "The Cultural Revolution: A People’s History 1962-1976", During the height of the Chinese cultural revolution, it became the fashion to wear pins that featured Mao in profile. In fact, if you didn't have one of these, you were seen as a pretender; someone who didn't take the revolution seriously. The problem is, these pins were made of aluminum. Due to the popularity of these pins, China was temporarily denuded of available aluminum. Workers were stripping aluminum shielding off of their machines to make these pins, and there was a thriving black market where people could buy them. So basically, to show off how good they were at communism, they went to the most capitalist of places (the black market) to buy these things. Mao even, at one point, decried the industry, lamenting the lack of available aluminum to make airframes for fighter jets.

But that's the thing - as important as the struggle was to the people in the revolution, it paled in comparison to the need to prove to everybody else that you supported the struggle. If you didn't have one of those pins, you might as well just sign up to be part of the next struggle session.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They better love capitalism, China is capitalist

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (2 children)

China calls itself Communist. That's literally all it takes to convince them.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Yeah... I never understood the "words are louder than actions" susceptibility there, but I can't complain overly much as my country's own partisan politics is rife with it.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Marxist theory explicitly states that capitalist systems might be a necessary step towards socialism. This is largely the premise Dengism was based on, using profit motives and foreign investment to build infrastructure until,

In Theory (TM)

Society is ready to both meet the physical needs of everyone and dissolve all heirarchy, aka the guvment.

I'm not sure how much comfort that is to the workers in factories with suicide netting.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

They complain about people accepting the western media narrative while uncritically swallowing whatever Xinhua wants them to believe.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

America 200 years ago: Steal land from native peoples and then kill, sterilize and oppress them, putting their children in concentration camps where they’re forced to give up their religions, languages and cultures

Lemmy devs: THEY’RE STILL EVIL! FASCIST THIS FASCIST THAT!!! AAAAAAH I HATE MY COUNTRY SO MUCH WE ARE SO GENOCIDAL AND RACIST! HOW MANY RUSSIAN AND CHINESE DICKS SHOULD I SUCK TO ATONE FOR THIS?

China today: Steal land from native peoples and then kill, sterilize and oppress them, putting their children in concentration camps where they’re forced to give up their religions, languages and cultures

Lemmy devs: UNBELIEVABLY BASED!

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

oh they have a very effective method, it's called "nuhuh, china says that's not real so it's not real!"

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Burgerland? Wow, this is just sad. That person probably doesn’t go outside often. Good thing that unlike the site that must not be named, this is FOSS so it’s a lot harder for them to ban the /c’s outside of ml and lemmygrad they disagree with unlike the tankie admins on that site.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

The admins on Lemmygrad are also the admins on lemmy.ml -- Oh, they're also the Lemmy developers.

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