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[-] [email protected] 33 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago)

I agree with that the abusive cops and ice is insane in the US, and it should be stopped. I also believe that the US is a corrupt nation in nearly every place of the government and surrounding instances.

But a question surround this, what if the US wasn't corrupt and the judges would actually follow the law (juries wouldn't be able to exist for most cases) and hypothetical if the US had privacy laws for everything besides businesses wouldn't this be the same punishable offence that would protect citizens?

In GDPR countries (among others) nobody is allowed to do something like this with face recognition because the law works for everybody. (Some people are trying to destroy this in some countries, though).

At the same time, if the government is allowed to use facial recognition and other anti-privacy measures to identify people where there is no ground to, then why shouldn't the people be able to do that?

Edit: I am not from the US and my look on life and trias political situations is different than what the fuck is happening in the US

[-] [email protected] 6 points 12 hours ago

If the police weren't unaccountable invaders, and just, liked, issued annoying tickets or whatever instead of murdering children and doing to crowds of peaceful civilians things that would be war crimes if done to uniformed enemy soldiers literally any tike they assemble, or even if the obes who actually did that stuff were punished literally at all when they did, i don't think anyone would have even thought to do this.

They are abd they do and they don't, though.

[-] [email protected] 14 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago)

Well, the US Supreme court did explicitely say cops have no expectation of anonymity while doing their job. This is completely legal. Its premised on the idea that cops arent there to be abusive but to uphold the law, which is not always actually true. The root of the problem is cops behavior themselves rather than the recording or identifying of them. Up until very recently cops at least had their names visible and were required to show ID upon request.

[-] [email protected] 1 points 2 hours ago

I believe you that it is legal and maybe it should be in the US.

I am just saying that it would be a weird thing if the US ever added more privacy laws since this kinda contradicts this. I believe that the badge number should be enough for some other party to punish cops when needed. But I do not live in the US so my point of view is already a bit different on this entire situation

[-] [email protected] 16 points 19 hours ago

In GDPR countries (among others) nobody is allowed to do something like this with face recognition because the law works for everybody.

IDK the specifics of GDPR (and GDPR is relatively new, so it will continue to evolve for some time...)

In my view: the police are public servants, salaries and pensions paid by taxes. They have voluntarily chosen to serve as public servants. Whole hosts of studies show that police who are actively involved with the communities they police, seeing, being seen, being known by the neighborhoods they work in, those police are more effective at preventing crime, defusing domestic disputes, etc. than faceless thugs with batons and guns who only show up when they are going to use their arrest powers to shut down whatever is going on.

If I were to write "my version" of the GDPR that I think the US should enact, there would be clear exceptions for public servants, including police and politicians. Now, you can get into the whole issue of "undercover cops" which is clearly analogous to "secret police" which may be a necessary evil for some circumstances, but that's not what is going on with OP's website. OP is providing a tool to compare photos to a public database of photographs of public servants - not undercover cops. By the way: performance is spec'ed at 1 to 3 seconds per photo comparison, so 9000 photos might take 9000-27000 seconds to compare, that's 2.5 to 7.5 hours to run one photo search.

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[-] [email protected] 2 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago)

(juries wouldn't be able to exist for most cases)

What does this mean?

Edit: read further down that you're in a country that doesn't guarantee jury trials so I'm guessing you're referring to some kind of criteria not being met to trigger a trial by jury

[-] [email protected] 1 points 1 hour ago

In my opinion you should look at the law objectively, a group of people who aren't fully educated on the law and aren't trained in being objective will not form an objective opinion.

Juries would be fine to give advice to the judge on how the public sees it, but they shouldn't have a real impact on the outcome of the situation. That should be a question of executing the law.

We have no trial by jury in The Netherlands and the international court of law doesn't have a jury either. The just have 15 judges to decide the outcome.

[-] [email protected] 6 points 19 hours ago

the judges would actually follow the law (juries wouldn’t be able to exist for most cases)

A core tenet of the law is the right to trial by a jury of your peers.

Jury trials have a very similar flaw to democracy.

Think of an average person you know, how stupid are they? Now, realize that half the people out there are stupider than that.

An average randomly selected jury is going to be composed of 50% below average intelligence people.

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[-] [email protected] 5 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago)

The answer is that I don't think it matters because the US or any other society will never reach some utopic standard of privacy. So long as we live in a world where facial recognition is possible - it is better to regulate it strongly than attempt to prohibit it.

In a modern globalized world the old privacy is dead, no matter how you look at it. Going forward something new will need to be built out of the ashes, be it a new privacy or something better/worse.

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[-] [email protected] 4 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago)

The plebs and the regime never have the same rights, in any country
FR is definitely used in GDPR countries.
For police it's so- called 'tightly regulated'.
For private use forbidden but 'there are exeptions'

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[-] [email protected] 20 points 22 hours ago

Should be the ice agents too

[-] [email protected] 391 points 1 day ago

I get the impression that the cops are about to hate facial recognition all of the sudden, for no particular reason

[-] [email protected] 167 points 1 day ago

There's a reason ICE conceal their faces.

They know what they're doing is wrong and don't want to be held accountable if their fascist rule collapses.

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[-] [email protected] 68 points 1 day ago

Cameras. They fucking hate body cameras. When it clears them of wrongdoing, they have the video ready. When they 'accidentally' shoot a guy nine times in the back of the head, video seems to be missing.

[-] [email protected] 1 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago)

Ever wonder why the uh, default cop idle stance, the at ease stance.... is each hand up at it's shoulder, elbows bent, in front of chest?

Because that way they can very, very easily, and casually, bump their chestcam, obsure its view, muffle the sound.

"In all forms of strategy, it is necessary to maintain the combat stance in everyday life and to make your everyday stance your combat stance."

  • Miyamoto Musashi, The Book of Five Rings.
[-] [email protected] 33 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

easily solvable problem: losing the footage is indication of guilt. you shoot someone, you better have it ready. it malfunctioned, better have a partner who has theirs ready. if no one has footage to clear you, it's used as evidence of guilt.

of course pussy ass lawmakers will never do that.

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[-] [email protected] 11 points 1 day ago

This is nice. Use their own weapons against these fuckers.

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[-] [email protected] 65 points 1 day ago

Lmao let's see how long it takes them to shut this down

[-] [email protected] 3 points 19 hours ago

All they have to do is close the public sources of photo IDs. The tool itself isn't anything special, anybody familiar with the tech can code something like this up in less than a day, hell ChatGPT can probably vibe code it for you.

[-] [email protected] 135 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

If only CSI enhancing worked in real life, we could out the asshole on the far left.

[-] [email protected] 39 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

far left

From his PoV, he's actually standing on the far-right. Fitting lol

[-] [email protected] 73 points 1 day ago

nice.

Is there one for ice too?

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[-] [email protected] 15 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I took a selfie and it told me I was an ice agent.... Wtf I'm such a piece of shit

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[-] [email protected] 113 points 1 day ago

This is ILLEGAL when Working Class people Do It!

-Chuck Schumer at Some Point probably!

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[-] [email protected] 38 points 1 day ago

Putting it out there for someone to do this for cops in the UK. I can't run infrastructure but the cops terrorise out local community and constantly refuse to identify themselves/turn off their badge cam.

[-] [email protected] 92 points 1 day ago

Is it me or is LA the only part of America doing anything resembling resistance?

[-] [email protected] 102 points 1 day ago

I think it's mainly LA that is seeing a large invasion of federal forces

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