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I loved Reddit for what it is, but nothing made me back out of a post faster than seeing the top 3 parent threads as a regurgitation of the same inside jokes, pun-chains, and so on.

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[โ€“] [email protected] 39 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Your hopes for Redditors are entirely too high.

[โ€“] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago

Unfortunately it's just something I think we're going to have to deal with no matter where you go. Even forums with higher quality users still have lame jokes and puns thrown around.

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[โ€“] [email protected] 37 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I'm sorry.. but the pun threads are legendary. I actually hope they at the very least, continue.

It always puts a smile on my face.

[โ€“] [email protected] 29 points 1 year ago (6 children)

...and my axe!

am i doing this right?

[โ€“] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago (2 children)

And the name of that axe was ...

Albert AxEinstein

[โ€“] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago

Take my upvote! And my !silver

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[โ€“] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago

This guy axes.

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[โ€“] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago

I loved the joke threads. People continuing a reference or pun or joke was just a harmless, fun time.

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[โ€“] [email protected] 36 points 1 year ago

Don't expect human nature to change just because some ceo of a different company decided to be a greedy dick, honestly

[โ€“] [email protected] 30 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I get what you're saying, but communities that spend time together will form their inside jokes, their way of doing things, etc. If you don't like it you don't have to participate. I say this with the upmost respect, but you need to get over yourself. Nobody is forcing you into a community.

[โ€“] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (3 children)

totes agree on that ish

the dumb shit is what makes it feel like a community or friends getting together. if its not that its a college message board for assignments

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[โ€“] [email protected] 25 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Glad to see one of the first posts I see on here is whining about how other people post. Starting to feel like home already.

[โ€“] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

Just need the people complaining about people complaining post followed by a rule baning complaining about people. Then we can get the golden meta post of complaining about the rule stopping you from complaining about people.

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[โ€“] [email protected] 25 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

So you're saying we should encourage people to not comment and participate because you personally don't enjoy something?

I know I'm being a bit over the top with the wording there but lets really think about it for a moment. Participation is engagement. And if we want Lemmy and by extension Lemmy.World to grow its what we need.

I upvoted you. Its a valid discussion to have. I just personally don't think its something we should be worried about in general.

[โ€“] [email protected] 23 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Let Lemmy grow. Growth and low effort pun threads is not what killed reddit. Corporate interference and shit stirring controversy spewing algorithms in the name of "user engagement" is what drove reddit down the drain.

[โ€“] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This right here. Puns aren't what was bad, it was the endless doomscrolling habit and continuous outrage going on that was. All the Rexxitors are going to see a serious uptick in their mental health. The puns were a coping mechanism, I think here that defensive reaction will be minimized.

[โ€“] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

No the endlessly repetitive puns were bad. They weren't the only things, but they were absolutely bad.

[โ€“] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Exactly. Like, I get that people want to have fun and all and I'm all for it even if it's not my thing, but any relevant discussion was constantly drowned out by the pun chains and copypasted shit to the point that it was fairly obviously often just bots, but as long as a few people have their fun fuck the discussion right? Right... but I/you/we gotta be less cynical, as was said above the lemmy algo is apparently better with this stuff. So I'm at least going to try to be a little hopeful.

[โ€“] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

Yea the main reason I hated it was because I had to fuckin dig through a thread if I wanted to find a serious comment about whatever was posted. It wasn't so much that low effort puns and shit were common, it was that they drowned almost everything else out in a lot of subs. Like even /r/science was turning into a memefest at the end.

I guess we'll see how things develope here

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[โ€“] [email protected] 17 points 1 year ago

Lemmy reminds me of old school BBS where actual discussion happened. I know it's been a shift for me where I actually have to think about a response and hold a discussion instead of just following the patterns. Not that I don't appreciate rote comments, it's nice to expect a joke and have that delivered on. Not every thread though.

[โ€“] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah those are just circle-jerky and don't add to any meaningful discussion.

[โ€“] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I've been hoping most of those users are only here temporarily following the bandwagon/circle-jerking, and that they go back to reddit for the comments of nothing but lame puns and off-topic jokes.

I was really hoping to escape that migrating here. The comments of nearly every reddit thread just devolves into r/funny or r/adviceanimals. Distinct subreddits mean less and less, and off-topic content is upvoted in every sub just because it illicits a cheap laugh.

Reddit is less and less a place for substantive discussion and more just a dumping grounds of repetitive lame jokes. I really hope the children stay on reddit...

[โ€“] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Thanks for the gold, kind stranger!

don'tkillmei'mjoking

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[โ€“] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Lemmy sorts comments differently from reddit. Lemmy's documentation page about their algorithm describes reddit's algorithm as one that,

rewards comments that are repetitive and spammy.

It's an issue the developers claim to have a solution for.

I have no problem with jokes and comment chains. People should have their fun. But, I deleted my reddit account in frustration years ago. Reddit ranks the jokes higher than relevant discussion.

I'm cautiously optimistic. Lemmy is likely to be less prone to this particular problem.

[โ€“] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Wow, that's a clever little algorithm. It feels like it could work better.

Reddit's big problem (among many) was you had to get in early on a thread to contribute. Otherwise you could be so far at the bottom you might as well have sent your reply to the bit bucket.

[โ€“] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

lemmy's algo seems in theory to work better, but we'll only know when the userbase here gets large enough.

On reddit, once a thread got past 300+ comments, the only way to get any views on your comment was to post it as a nested comment in a top-level comment.

[โ€“] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

lol, I realized the same thing and gamed that broken system more than once.

[โ€“] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago

most power users realised that, i think. and that's what led to the pun chains.

[โ€“] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I feel like there is a potential but minor problem with Lemmy's algorithm. It favors new comments but what if the post itself is asking a question with a definitive answer? The best answers might get buried by side discussion as time goes on.

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[โ€“] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago

This is the way

[โ€“] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

To shreds you say, tsk tsk tsk. Well, howโ€™s his wife holding up?

[โ€“] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago (2 children)
[โ€“] bdonvr 18 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Hold my overused pun, I'm going in!

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[โ€“] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Hold my nonexistent wedding ring, I'm going in

[โ€“] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I also choose this guy's nonexistent wife.

[โ€“] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)
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[โ€“] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Damn, we're already gatekeeping in here? Nice.

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[โ€“] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Are you sure you liked Reddit?

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[โ€“] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

the other thing to consider with low effort, duplication of memes is the server overhead. one thing to burn corporate coffers with the same people of walmart and cat tropes but this kind of stuff burns server and storage resources.

for a corporate entity looking to make billions off our data that's the cost of doing business -- but for lemmy server admins it's a truly personal cost.

imo we should be respectful of our "homes" and try not to trash them with low value content.

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