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What would be the better option for privacy. Logging into my windows partition and using zoom just for class logging right back out or install zoom on my linux partition?

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[–] [email protected] 60 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I would keep it simple and use the zoom web client and restrict as much as possible.

However, if you must have an app, they support linux. Then you can sandbox it as you would other apps on your machine.

Going into another partition might be a bit safer, but I'm not sure the privacy vs convinience tradeoff works.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

There is a flatpak zoom app. I guess it can be sandboxes somehow. It would most likely not pose any privacy threat outside of zoom.

But keep in mind that zoom got into it's privacy policy, that they can record and use for ai anything you do and say during a meeting (if you didn't allow access to the desktop during the meeting, zoom shouldn't be able to record it, so most likely won't matter for that, only what you send through their servers).

[–] [email protected] 36 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Is there a reason why you didn't list "using the web client in firefox and install none of their crap on my machine" among the options you consider ?

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I did not know zoom had a web client

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 year ago

IIRC they usually try to push you towards installing their ~~spyware~~ desktop client and the option to join the meeting from your browser is made as less visible as possible.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

They could also run Firefox as a nonpersistent app in docker, if that makes them feel any better.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

@joel_feila
You can use the 'Firefox Multi-Account Containers' extension for Firefox and create a container for Zoom.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 year ago (2 children)

That is no longer necessary with Dynamic State Partitioning. Every top level domain is automatically given its own container, essentially. The extension is really only useful for logging into sites on two accounts simultaneously.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Is this for real? So I shouldn't be worried about using certain websites that they'll track me around?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Sort of. There are still tricks that can be used like redirecting between sites to "sync" their states. Container tabs can still be useful because if they do this then the sites will all be "fresh" to that container and not shared between websites. But for the most part yes, different sites have limited ability to track you other than things like fingerprinting and IP address.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Is there any good explanation of this somewhere?

[–] [email protected] 27 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

First, I would recommend posting this in a privacy community instead, as linux isn’t just for privacy. I don’t like to give comments correcting people without proposing a solution, so I would say just running it in your browser with uBlock Origin and maybe a random user agent switcher if zoom lets you. Also clear your cookies when you are done. If you really want full privacy then just use tor browser for it.

Edit: Also use a burner account that you create while using tor.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If you really want full privacy then just use tor browser for it.

Can you actually have a fast enough connection for Zoom through Tor?

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

If you use YOUR login to participate in Zoom via Tor, then Zoom already knows who you are, regardless of HOW you access it

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Okay, but I asked about speed.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I answered that using Tor defeats the purpose.
Depending one nodes you use one day you may have great connection, the other it may be really crappy

[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I would just use a private Firefox window to join via the web client. What kind of privacy intrusion are you most worried about?

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago (2 children)

just the general microsoft is touch my computer.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago

Well then Linux obviously

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

The most important kind of privacy intrusion 😹

[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 year ago

Might be able to find a flatpak and use flatseal to restrict it as much as possible

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You can run it on Linux through Firejail.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

Firejail let's you configure what access applications have to your system and sandboxes them.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago

Just use the browser client. They try to hide it but you can click thought the small text to launch it. The browser sandbox is one of the most reliably privacy options that we have.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If you put zoom in a flatpak and tighten its permissions, it won't be able to touch the rest of your system

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Is this actually true withoit using wayland?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If you're using X, it would be able to read your inputs for other applications and such, but if you don't do anything sensitive while it's running it still won't be able to do anything.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Wont it be able to take screenshots of my desktop and such?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

It could, so while you're using it you should make sure you don't have anything sensitive onscreen.

If your desktop supports Wayland at all, you could switch to it while using Zoom, even if other things don't work as well, then switch back when you aren't.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Zoom does not work in wayland

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

ah wack, XWayland then? that should at least stop it from snooping on Wayland apps

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

Install some distro on an USB stick and ruin it from there

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Zoom works on Linux just fine

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The zoom Linux client is crappy so if the web one does not work for you I would suggest just booting into windows and using it.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

you are the first to suggest using window. Since I would only log in just for class and right back it it can't really track much.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 1 year ago

not going to school would be the best option