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[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 year ago (2 children)

One of my older family members even mentioned that they heard about a Reddit blackout, so it definitely is being talked about.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

My local sub did a "brown out" and they even messed that up lol

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)
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[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 year ago (2 children)

And yet I read something about them taking over one of the popular subs (adviceanimals or something) and removing all the mods and making it public again...

[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

What happened was the top mod, who had been inactive for a while, came online and overrode the other mod's decision to stay open. This caused a moderator dispute, which caused the admins to step in, and they decided to remove the top mod and reopen the sub.

https://lemmy.intai.tech/comment/31833

(And if Reddit was maliciously forcing subs open, why would they choose r/AdviceAnimals?)

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If the CEO got caught editing comments and posts, how do I know he didn't just pretend to be a defunct mod lol

Probably because it's one of their front page subs? My guess at least. Maybe the CEOs favorite 🀣

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

r/adviceanimals doesn't have pictures of underage girls, so u/spez obviously has no interest in it.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The mods knew this was a risk going in. If anything, it just shows that reddit doesn't care about its users. They're ostracizing a large portion of their mods. If there is no one to moderate their site, they're going to realize why they needed their users very quickly.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Think it would have been a more effective protest if mods got together (think it was 24k from all the blackout subs?) and said they would remove themselves as moderators if reddit didn't budge. Reddit would in no way function if that amount of mods stopped moderating

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Yeah there would be gore or CP everywhere very quickly ESPECIALLY if the users valued the increase in chaos. People would probably be actively posting full length Disney movies and "questionable" porn to stir shit up.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Didnt know the apollo dev is from halifax.... Makes me even more angry that reddit CEO tried to make him look like a liar

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago

everyone on the internet is secretly Canadian .

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I wonder if they’ll make a Lemmy client like how the tweetbot devs made ivory for mastodon

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I'd love it if the 3rd party developers burned by Reddit started developing for Lemmy/kbin/Mastodon. First, there is lots of opportunity to make Lemmy and the rest of the Fediverse more user friendly without sacrificing the benefits of federation. Second, it's an open source ecosystem. The more developers in the space, the better for everyone.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I'm trying Jerboa, on the f-droid app store (Android).

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Hey me too. It isn't bad, I miss RiF but this has a similar feel. Wish it was easier to see my subscriptions, I suspect I'll get smoother with time

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Not a bad article. A bit light on details and the effects and consequences of Reddit's changes. However, many articles I've seen from other mainstream news organizations were slanted towards the corporate bias and made it sound like the concerns were no big deal.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago

CBC often does this with Business reporting. In their story about the InstantPot bankruptcy they neglected to mention that the reason the company was $500 million in debt is because they were acquired by a private equity firm who then took out a $500 million loan in the company's name and used it to pay themselves a huge dividend, earning about $150 million in instant profit.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

I agree on both counts. I thought the CBC article was one of the best, it covers both sides and leans more towards how this might matter for people who don't even use Reddit.

Particular bonus points for the commentary by Cory Doctorow.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Too bad there was no mention of decentralised alternates like Lemmy or kbin.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (6 children)

As discussed elsewhere, that might not be such a bad thing. Ramping up slowly will work much better than all of Reddit suddenly showing up at lemmy.ml and expecting it to be a fully polished* Reddit.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (11 children)

How come Reddit's hosting costs are so high? It's a content aggregator so mostly directs to other sites. While for original content, it used to rely on Imgur for hosting images, does it not anymore? And text content shouldn't use that much resources or maybe I'm wrong?

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I don't believe their hosting costs are that high. But they did go from about 700 employees to somewhere around 2000 employees. I suspect a lot of their overhead is headcount.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 year ago (1 children)

instead of giving the site a working search feature after 15 years, they doubled down on year end wrap ups, vertical videos, chat, and other nonsense

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago

This doesn't get mentioned enough. They drastically increased their workforce during covid. That is a massive new expense and what exactly do they have to show for it? Has Reddit improved in that time? I don't see that it has. Now suddenly this bizarre API move. None of it adds up to good leadership to me.

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It really realllly shouldn't be they host comment sections for links to other more technically impressive websites.

Like we are talking about a cost they willing absorbed for like 10 years running without noteworthy complaint. Yet now as of like this month the cost is suddenly so onerous that everyone has to start paying an extortionate rate at the end of this month.

Good faith business arrangements are not typically changed with one months notice. And they is no plan for accessibility or mod tools or the backlash. They didn't even have time to couch the CEO on how to handle the questions in the AMA.

Idk I don't really buy it.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They wanted to be the next Tiktok/Youtube Shorts/Instagram Reels and added expensive video hosting. Yay for ad impressions and mainstream adoption of mindless scrollers, but a good chance the costs drove up well beyond the influx of ad revenue/premium.

That and Reddit admins have to scrounge every penny to look pretty for their IPO.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

and avatars, NFT support, chat groups, and.. and.. and..

Endless growth, without a use case.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

What? You don't want stupid features that aren't really necessary and that most users wouldn't care if they were removed?

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)
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[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

Edit omg thanks for the awards.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

it used to rely on Imgur for hosting images, does it not anymore?

People still use imgur, but reddit hosts a fair amount of content directly now. It's video player is notoriously bad. Imgur has slowly turned into a socia media in it's own right and is slowly starting to move off reddit (deleting images uploaded by non-account holders for instance).

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I was thinking Imgur could have pivoted and become like Reddit.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Imgur dev sold Imgur and now Imgur is becoming Tumblr lol

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Doesn't mean they can't pivot.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They still have to host users, feeds, and comments which can add up very quickly. Also, they do host some images as well like when people upload to them.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Worth noting that for the 11 years, Reddit didn't host any images.

It's hard to say why Reddit thought it was necessary to host their own images.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (2 children)

publicity is good, but wish they would have taken two exta seconds to explain the nuance of the issue.

It's not just that Reddit will start charging for API calls, but that the price was outrageously high, extortionate even.

Many will read this article, and others like it, and automatically side with Reddit, because "it sounds fair that apps with heavy API usage should contribute to the cost", completely missing the part the Reddit is trying to bankrupt the third part app developers.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

wish they would have taken two exta seconds to explain the nuance of the issue.

Most users on Reddit don't really understand the nuance, either.

Even though there has been tons of threads in most of the subreddits trying to explain it.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I'm annoyed that the imgur pricing didn't make the article, which I thought was the most illuminating comparison. Leading the pricing details with $2.50/person/month sounds very "that's all?" at surface level

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