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submitted 22 hours ago* (last edited 22 hours ago) by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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My view is transracial isn’t valid and this person is trying to dogwhistle. I’ve already blocked this person, and now they’re going after my friend saying my friend is transphobic because they disagreed with them about transracial being a thing (they're purposefully leaving the context out so my friend looks transphobic when what my friend really said was transgender is valid but transracial isn't)

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[-] [email protected] 5 points 5 hours ago

Does it really matter if someone is either

[-] [email protected] 28 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago)

No race, no gender. No problems.

Gender anarchism and race anarchism. People be just people. Social constructs shall not be a dividing reason, let everyone behave however the hell they want as long as they don't hurt others and be happy.

Also US race concepts are kind of weird in general. I suppose the history of slavery and segregation did a number on people's perception of race.

[-] [email protected] 15 points 11 hours ago

Literally the only rational answer. Stop giving a fuck about what people look like unless you’re explicitly looking for someone to fuck

[-] [email protected] 8 points 9 hours ago

Depends if I have time and I want entertainment at that moment, I know they are trolling and don't care and usually people just want to get me angry at them so I calmly responded to everything they say as it's a real legitimate question, treat every question as if there truly caring about it. Most people will just back off after a bit because they can't get me all angry and pissed off. It's quite entertaining watching them get angry and wound up because I was trying to answer them honestly and nice way. Doesn't always work but it's just something I do I learned really pisses off those kinda people

[-] [email protected] 3 points 9 hours ago

Why not ask more questions about it? And if they insist it does no damage, it wouldn't matter either way

[-] [email protected] 4 points 10 hours ago

The differences between the sexes is much less than people like to pretend. Every cell in your body has different modes it can operate in. Many, perhaps most, cells have estrogen-dominated and testosterone-dominated modes. If you change the dominant hormones in the body, every cell in the body switches between these modes. Trans people who medically transition are simply taking advantage of the body's existing mechanism of secondary sex characteristics.

Ultimately, any person could have a male- or female- typical phenotype. If you put the right hormone injections into a fetus at the right time of pregnancy, an XY fetus would be born with a vagina and a uterus. And the opposite is true as well. These conditions sometimes happen naturally with intersex conditions. Every human body has the potential to develop along a male- or female-typical path. It's just a matter of what hormones are passing through the body at what stage of development.

But race? There's no comparison. Cells don't have different expression modes that correspond to different racial phenotypes. There are no "black hormones" that a white person could take to gain many of the characteristics of black bodies. There is simply no equivalent to the medical transition process many trans people undergo. There is simply no equivalent to the fundamental rewiring of the body that occurs on a cellular level with trans medical treatments.

[-] [email protected] 5 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago)

Are you saying hormone injections or other medical measures are necessary for you to consider someone transgender? I'm pretty sure most people wouldn't agree with that. Correspondingly why would that be required to be transracial? You're right that hormone differences aren't involved in race, but how does that invalidate the whole concept? TBH it sounds the same as the anti-trans argument, "it just doesn't make sense." I mean I can see people reacting like, "If we allow this then it would be easy to abuse." Well maybe, but that seems like another issue. I'm just now dipping into this and trying to understand it.

[-] [email protected] 0 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago)

I feel like your over focusing on the medical aspect

I took to mean like how you compare say breeds of dogs. Both a golden retriever and a German Shepard are both dogs,.both k-9 members of the space species.

All fo them have the biological ability to be both male or female as it's a secondary trait controlled by hormones.

While race is basically genetics and your DNA. You cant just edit your DNA and rewrite your body to express characteristics of another race.

You can't just make your body suddenly become a red head, or grow an afro. You can't just suddenly force your nose or cheek bones to rearrange themselves.

You can't just shrink to lengthen your bones.

Most of what makes up human "races" is just the breeding of our ancestors.

In the future we may be able to change all of this and custom design out bodies. But that wouldnt be a natural change unlike hormone therapy.

Instead of taking advantage of a natural ability of the body, you would be entirely overruling it and entirely creating something new that isn't natural.

Basically you would be performing eugentics. For good or bad.

[-] [email protected] 2 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago)

I don't know anything about this issue but apparently the presumption here is that your view is the right view and you're just asking how to splain it to the person. My question is about the "I've already blocked this person" part. Instead could you possibly just limit your conversation to other subjects? It keeps looking like we're all getting more and more isolated from each other as we develop extreme aversions to anyone not having our exact POV about everything, so we shove them out of our world. It reminds me of survivalist bunker mentality.

[-] [email protected] 6 points 12 hours ago

It's nonsense because race is a social construct.

[-] [email protected] 1 points 6 hours ago

But so it's gender, so this isn't really a good argument is it?

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[-] [email protected] 6 points 13 hours ago

Transracial doesn't exist because "Race" in the context that they want to use it doesn't exist.

Genetically there's only one "race"; that's the human race. If they want to identify as a different culture, it's purely a cosmetic cultural thing, not biological or genetic. Whereas as being Transgender is biological. Therefore, you can safely tell people like Rachel Dolezal to fuck off and go back to fifth period science class.

[-] [email protected] 4 points 11 hours ago

Gender isn't biological. You're conflating with sex

[-] [email protected] 4 points 10 hours ago

Well trans people, if they medically transition, quite literally change their sex.

[-] [email protected] 3 points 7 hours ago

If they don't, they're still transitioning their gender. Exactly how much they decide to change themselves doesn't matter. That's the point of the term.

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[-] [email protected] 5 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago)

someone said that in a thread on lemmy early, i cringed. it seems the only people that think transracial is a thing is primarly done by white people. i wonder if thats the same person were talking about.

and yes i was thinking about rachel dolzal. or white people claiming they are native american, because they have less than 1-5% of thier dna, your still a white asf guy. and a white guy pretending that he is filipino, because he drives a tuk tuk.

[-] [email protected] 3 points 11 hours ago

Yeah fuck it, it's 2025

[-] [email protected] 6 points 13 hours ago

Is there something like "trans smart"?

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[-] [email protected] 16 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago)

"You are wrong. Gender and race are two different things. Transgender people have been around since time began, transracial was invented few years ago to appropriate and diminish transgender people's experiences. it's not transphobic to be against something that was recently invented to invalidate transgender people. ciao"

but tbf it seems like that person's tryna start shit so I'd just block and report em

[-] [email protected] 3 points 12 hours ago

Look, understanding and relating to someone of a different race is one thing, but if you think that you somehow are that race then there's something wrong in your brain, one way or another. It's better than being like "I'm really a wolf" or similar nonsense, but only because at least you're not claiming it believing that you're a different species. Instead you're on the sliding scale of delusion/dog whistle and either way I'd rather just not be around you.

[-] [email protected] 2 points 8 hours ago

Makes sense on the surface, but people have reacted exactly the same way the whole transgender concept. "You can be in touch with your feminine side but your still male" or whatever.

[-] [email protected] 55 points 22 hours ago

Block them.

[-] [email protected] 39 points 21 hours ago

The best way to respond is to disregard them, block and move on. Transracial is an actual thing, but it refers to people of one race adopted by another. Transracial ala Dolezal is just a troll to attack trans people, no different from attack helicopters.

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[-] [email protected] 11 points 17 hours ago

Transgender is more comparable to Naturalization.

You can become an American, British, Canadian, German, Japanese, or Chinese, in terms of Citizenship/Nationality, but you can't just magically change from White to Black or to Asian, or vice versa.

[-] [email protected] 1 points 4 hours ago

Hey now we have crisper, I'm sure with some minor DNA editing and risking the entire breeding population of humans though poorly made genetic editing is totally legit.

Have an afro, make your natural hair change color, hell regrow your hair AND give yourself the curly locks of your dreams!

Change your skin tone to blue and become a sexy Star wars alien!

[-] [email protected] 1 points 4 hours ago

Step 1: Change skin color to Green via DNA editing Step 2: Build a flying saucer
Step 3: ???
Step 4: Y'all are all my subjects, kneel before me, fithy earthlings.

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