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According to the comments r/europe_sub and r/canada_sub might be involved as well.

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[-] [email protected] 37 points 6 days ago

Alex Karp, founder, CEO, and majority shareholder of Palantir, is an ultra-zionist genocide supporter who has repeatedly advocated for pre-emptive murder of anyone (foreign) who does not obey the US empire. He does this in ordinary business news interviews.

As one of the leading companies seeking funding for Skynet, and universal CIA media unanimity on the importance that the US be dominant/first in race to develop Skynet. AGI/Skynet can be programmed to serve any supremacist ideology other than machines, and US empire and CIA aligned oligarchy supremacism is as much your enemy as robot supremacism.

AI, like mainstream media, and reddit/lemmy news, politics, world subs are CIA/empire allegiant. Brainwashing your warmongering support is their agenda. Skynet is far more power maximizing than UBI utopia.

[-] [email protected] 3 points 6 days ago

He also considers himself a marxist iirc

[-] [email protected] 7 points 6 days ago

link to that? I looked for one.

[-] [email protected] 4 points 6 days ago

What the other guy provided is as good as I will find

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[-] [email protected] 10 points 6 days ago

I mean, that's right on the mark. The reason they called themselves National Socialists isn't because they were socialists, but because they knew that their true beliefs were so abhorrent that they needed to lie about being socialists.

Elon Musk has been recently shown to have done the same thing.

[-] [email protected] 7 points 6 days ago

He's confused with national-socialist.

[-] [email protected] 7 points 6 days ago

Probably double speak. in 2024 election cycle he tried to say he wasn't picking sides but in same sentence "but democrats cultural marxist wokeness must stop". Zionist oligarchs turn on liberal values is that being anti genocide is woke.

[-] [email protected] 4 points 6 days ago

His actions show he is absolutely not.

[-] [email protected] 23 points 6 days ago

Reddit was already compromised. For those that were there, there was incident that showed that most of the top posts made are made by a handful accounts on several subbreddits. Keep an eye for things like this, in fact you should be suspicious of .world and their actions.

[-] [email protected] 9 points 6 days ago

Good thing I switched to .dbzer0.

[-] [email protected] 5 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

Same here fellow sailor. Reddit made me feel transparent. Never going back!

[-] [email protected] 32 points 6 days ago

Guy. Reddit is already compromised.

[-] [email protected] 17 points 6 days ago

The wholesale takeover of the site by /r/The_Donald posters gaming the algorithm back in 2016 is entirely down the memory hole.

Nobody who still uses the site wants to believe they're being hoodwinked again.

[-] [email protected] 27 points 6 days ago

I mean if you read any Reddit that during the road to the recent USA elections, Biden should have won by an extremely large margin, and later , Kamala.

If we used Reddit threads of those months as reference, we'd currently been talking about how hard Kamala won

But she didn't

So yeah, take whatever is on Reddit, and now Lemmy, with an asteroid sized pinch of salt

Not saying those comments were fake, they certainly represent someone, now, wheater that someone is a sizeable amount of voters...

[-] [email protected] 7 points 6 days ago

Snakes on a Plane and Bernie have proven that what you see online is complete bullshit.

Biden got the boot because he was a no-hoper and his party must have been aware of his cancer. Kamala stood ZERO chance.

It sucks to have to admit that Trump and his fascists are popular. Very popular.

[-] [email protected] 3 points 6 days ago

What happened with Snakes on a Plane? I'm only aware of the movie.

[-] [email protected] 5 points 6 days ago

Based on online hype, it could be believed that it was going to be the highest grossing movie of all time.

It was an unmitigated disaster and complete flop.

Nobody went to see the piece of shit. Everybody talked about it online.

[-] [email protected] 3 points 6 days ago

Huh, I'm amazed - I wasn't exposed to any of that. I'd only seen the memes about it afterwards.

[-] [email protected] 3 points 6 days ago

Think about opening your favorite social media app, and seeing 60% of the posts in support of something... And then when the day comes that thing receives about 1% of RL support.

Snakes on a Plane. Enthusiasm for Democrats 2024.

[-] [email protected] 2 points 6 days ago

Damn this explains why I never saw it but did heard of it online

Kinda like the opposite with Avatar from Cameron. The more people diss on the fans, the more they galvanize to see it

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They are not popular. Like 30% of the voting eligible public voted for him.

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[-] [email protected] 6 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

You guys can’t think there are seriously paid bots on lemmy. There are like 10,000 users. It’s basically a niche message board. Reddit is a valuable target because it has millions of users. Facebook, instagram, Twitter. These places are being astroturfed. But lemmy? I honestly don’t believe it. It doesn’t even have a core of users in any particular country. The small user base is spread all over the world. It just isn’t a target of these campaigns.

People are complicated. Everyone always points to “all that anti Kamala talk ended right after the election!” Yeah, maybe a lot of the pro-Palestinian anti Kamala people saying they wouldn’t vote for her stopped speaking so publicly because the reality of the other option sunk in. That doesn’t mean those people are paid trolls or bots. It means their argument got much more difficult when trump started plotting out his Gaza hotel. Those feelings are still legitimate. The feeling of not being able to sign your name to the lesser of two evils when that “lesser” is still funding and arming the genocidal force. People couldn’t swallow that on a personal level. But as soon as trump was elected, because it was one of two options, for the sake of not being angrily brigades, people stopped talking about it.

It’s a much more nuanced issue than bots on lemmy.

[-] [email protected] 7 points 6 days ago

Lemmy is in a growth stage. That's exactly the time groups would want to start embedding bots to give them the most possible credulity for when they're needed.

[-] [email protected] 4 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

This is exactly how voat died. There may have been an ounce of legitimacy early on. It veered into blatant far right accounts posting every top post. It's obvious this kind of thing happens on lemmy too. Especially on certain instances. For now at least the federation model appears to be doing its thing.

[-] [email protected] 4 points 6 days ago

It'll be interesting too as federations are a bit of a wild-west right now with some domains dropping off or being federated, while others may still be created in the future

[-] [email protected] 4 points 6 days ago

You in turn are overestimating how much effort is required for an established bot farm to add a platform to their system.

I used to see that shit decades ago in the phpBB days, you'd get accounts signing up to a board with 20 active users to post climate change denialist articles, even though the website itself had nothing to do with climate change. (Looking back on it now, the oil lobby was probably the first big user of internet forum astroturfing, but somehow nothing ever came of it...)

[-] [email protected] 3 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

Exactly, it blew up exponentionally around 2016 and became of importance. That's when the US regime put Jessica Ashoosh in place.
All the clowns leaving Reddit bcs now with Trump 'Reddit isn't free' are a joke.
They have been living a lie

[-] [email protected] 3 points 6 days ago

As always, trust but verify. I was telling people here for months that Kamala hadn't won yet and everybody needed to get out and spread the word on Project 2025.

We saw what happened, and we see a lot of opinions here on Lemmy. Trust but verify.

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[-] [email protected] 16 points 6 days ago

Good evidence of astroturfing on Reddit. That Reddit took action and banned the Palantir agents only provides evidence that exposure of the op is the problem. Not evidence that Reddit acts in good faith.

[-] [email protected] 3 points 6 days ago

Good evidence of astroturfing on Reddit. That Reddit took action and banned the Palantir agents only provides evidence that exposure of the op is the problem. Not evidence that Reddit acts in good faith.

A good question to ask, is what would happen if Lemmy was the victim of astroturfing. It's decentralized for starters and groups might not even reside in the same place on the fediverse. Also I expect Reddit has monitoring, analytics and tools that could flag behaviour rather than somebody having to go through logs trying to find patterns.

I think Lemmy and other federated platforms have escaped having to deal with these issues simply because someone attempting to astroturf will do it on the biggest platform. So Lemmy escapes not by any technical or administrative virtue but by being smallfry.

[-] [email protected] 1 points 4 days ago

Corporatism leads to imperialism by the need to seek profits in new markets. Wherever we see lots of defense of imperialism, there is corporate backing behind it. That's why I think lemmy.world is astroturfed. There's a strong anti-communist and pro "free market" capitalist tendency on there. Posts that attack the Global South as the world's villains. On the other hand, there are also many people on lemmy.world that speak out against imperialism and capitalistic exploitation. But the recurrent waves of reactionary politics on lemmy.world indicate to me the presence of astroturfing trolls. This makes sense even on a relatively small platform like Lemmy because it threatens to become a nucleus for organizing against capitalism.

[-] [email protected] 23 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

It's good that people are exposing manipulation and the corporations behind it but it's quite useless to do it on a heavily censored and already manipulated platform like reddit. I would also like to remember everyone that a bunch of people paid to work 8h a day could rig lemmy in a day, if you don't stop upvoting memes and stupid subs evil corporations like palantir are going to feast on lemmy.

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[-] [email protected] 15 points 6 days ago

You mean the company started by musks fucktoy is doing some fucked up things? I don’t believe you.

[-] [email protected] 14 points 6 days ago

Yes. Reddit allows payola posts. Of course they are.

[-] [email protected] 10 points 6 days ago

I mean, obviously Reddit is full of astroturfing and psyops, remember when all of sudden everyone on that bloody website was a die-hard zionist when the week before most americans could not have placed Israel on a map

[-] [email protected] 5 points 6 days ago

Oh no, those reddits are all modded by the same people!

[-] [email protected] 5 points 6 days ago

Sometimes I just know about the eminence of the launch of something because of the crap memes about it that start to flood Reddit. Then I see my non-reddit friends sharing it from other sources.

Obvious gorilla marketing is obvious, but people fall in droves.

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