Steam Proton doesn't works : linux

[-] [email protected] 6 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

The problem is almost certainly your OS.

Devuan does not use systemd, it uses ... sysvinit, or OpenRC, or runnit.

Basically the entire linux ecosystem is built around and on top of systemd... other init based OSs that try to run most linux software... will encounter many absurd and esoteric problems, all of which ultimately stem from the fact that the vast majority of linux software is developed with systemd as the default, assumed, init system.

Basically, any Linux OS that doesn't use systemd should be considered entirely experimental, beyond any software that the OS devs explicitly state they support.

Some non-systemd OS developers will dedicate time to either forking or patching certain, specific, existing software or libraries to be compatible with all the init systems their OS supports, but realistically, given the niche nature of such OSs and their small dev teams, they are always going to be months to years behind the current support level for systemd based OSs.

You could attempt to fix this specific issue you are having, but it would likely require you to essentially become an OS developer.

It would be vastly easier to simply switch from Devuan over to standard Debian, which runs Steam and Proton and such pretty much just fine.

[-] [email protected] 6 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

...will encounter many absurd and esoteric problems, all of which ultimately stem from the fact that the vast majority of linux software is developed with systemd as the default, assumed, init system.

Unless the application in question is directly interacting with systemd, then I believe this is overblown.

Applications largely simply expect certain features to be supported. DNS, for example, could be provided by systemd-resolvd or by dnscrypt-proxy.

This isn't being built around systemd, this is being built around the expectation of a feature. This feature can be provided by different applications and still function.

In my experience, providing the features expected is far more important than providing specifically the systemd API.

Basically, any Linux OS that doesn't use systemd should be considered entirely experimental, beyond any software that the OS devs explicitly state they support.

Hard disagree.

I think the init system is more abstracted away from the developers of a game/typical user app than you are implying.

[-] [email protected] 3 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

But if it will works 🤔. And what can I do to do now? Remains only to have try to install some other OS.

Also I've try this instruction: https://github.com/lutris/docs/blob/master/HowToEsync.md

But this also was be helpless 🤷

[-] [email protected] 4 points 6 days ago

I would look at the proton log of a game that doesn't work.

How do I create logs of a game I run with Proton?

Proton will create a log file for a particular game, if you set the launch parameter to:

PROTON_LOG=1 %command%

The log file will be created in your home folder with the name scheme steam-$STEAMID.log. For example:

$HOME/steam-379720.log

[-] [email protected] 1 points 6 days ago

And the end of the log:

Modules:
Module	Address			Debug info	Name (23 modules)
PE	00400000-00a8a000	Export          megaserval
PE	7b000000-7b2a0000	Deferred        kernelbase
PE	7b600000-7b65f000	Deferred        kernel32
PE	7bc00000-7bcaa000	Export          ntdll
ELF	7d000000-7d005000	Deferred        <wine-loader>
ELF	7e9ff000-7eb86000	Export          libwine.so.1
ELF	f62ea000-f63d7000	Deferred        ntdll.so
ELF	f78e7000-f78f6000	Deferred        libmd.so.0
ELF	f78f6000-f790d000	Deferred        libbsd.so.0
ELF	f790d000-f7914000	Deferred        libxdmcp.so.6
ELF	f7914000-f7919000	Deferred        libxau.so.6
ELF	f7919000-f7947000	Deferred        libxcb.so.1
ELF	f7947000-f7a99000	Deferred        libx11.so.6
ELF	f7a99000-f7ad5000	Deferred        libglx.so.0
ELF	f7ad5000-f7b51000	Deferred        libgldispatch.so.0
ELF	f7b51000-f7c56000	Deferred        libm.so.6
ELF	f7c58000-f7cc4000	Deferred        libgl.so.1
ELF	f7cc4000-f7cc9000	Deferred        librt.so.1
ELF	f7cc9000-f7ef1000	Deferred        libc.so.6
ELF	f7ef1000-f7ef6000	Deferred        libdl.so.2
ELF	f7ef6000-f7efb000	Deferred        libpthread.so.0
ELF	f7f07000-f7f99000	Deferred        gameoverlayrenderer.so
ELF	f7f9b000-f7fd0000	Deferred        ld-linux.so.2
Threads:
process  tid      prio    name (all IDs are in hex)
00000020 steam.exe
	00000024    0     
	00000118    0     
	00000130    0     
00000030 services.exe
	00000034    0     
	00000038    0     wine_rpcrt4_server
	00000044    0     wine_rpcrt4_io
	00000048    0     wine_threadpool_worker
	00000068    0     wine_rpcrt4_io
	00000074    0     wine_rpcrt4_io
	00000098    0     wine_rpcrt4_io
	000000b0    0     wine_rpcrt4_io
	000000c4    0     
	000000e4    0     wine_rpcrt4_io
	000000e8    0     wine_threadpool_worker
0000003c winedevice.exe
	00000040    0     
	0000004c    0     
	00000050    0     wine_sechost_service
	00000054    0     
	00000058    0     
	0000005c    0     
	000000bc    0     
	000000c0    0     
00000060 winedevice.exe
	00000064    0     
	0000006c    0     
	00000070    0     wine_sechost_service
	00000078    0     
	0000007c    0     
	00000080    0     
	00000084    0     
	0000008c    0     
00000090 plugplay.exe
	00000094    0     
	0000009c    0     
	000000a0    0     wine_sechost_service
	000000a4    0     wine_rpcrt4_server
000000a8 svchost.exe
	000000ac    0     
	000000b4    0     
	000000b8    0     wine_sechost_service
000000c8 explorer.exe
	000000cc    0     
	000000d0    0     
	000000d4    0     wine_rpcrt4_server
000000dc rpcss.exe
	000000e0    0     
	000000ec    0     
	000000f0    0     wine_sechost_service
	000000f4    0     wine_rpcrt4_server
	000000f8    0     wine_rpcrt4_server
	000000fc    0     wine_rpcrt4_io
	00000100    0     wine_threadpool_worker
00000104 tabtip.exe
	00000108    0     
	00000110    0     wine_rpcrt4_server
	00000114    0     
	0000011c    0     
00000128 (D) Z:\mnt\Games\Steam\steamapps\common\Mega Serval\megaServal.exe
	0000012c    0 <== 
	00000144    0     
0000013c conhost.exe
	00000140    0     
System information:
    Wine build: wine-8.0
    Platform: i386 (WOW64)
    Version: Windows 10
    Host system: Linux
    Host version: 6.1.0-35-amd64
1057.067:0030:0148:warn:threadname:NtSetInformationThread Thread renamed to L"wine_threadpool_worker"
1057.067:0030:014c:warn:threadname:NtSetInformationThread Thread renamed to L"wine_threadpool_worker"
1057.068:0030:0150:warn:threadname:NtSetInformationThread Thread renamed to L"wine_threadpool_worker"
pid 15809 != 15808, skipping destruction (fork without exec?)

It doesn't seems that the problem in SystemD 🤔. Maybe...

[-] [email protected] 2 points 6 days ago

Take the whole log and put it a pastebin like pastebin.com. Then reply with the link.

[-] [email protected] 2 points 6 days ago

Can I use PrivateBin instead?

https://0.jaegers.net/?56551c15509bb58b#WwJnXzAmbJfk767Ac5NDykBUJndRG6nuoMmSu6ZxU1X

[-] [email protected] 2 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

Try different versions of proton. Also try changing the version of steam to the flatpak version, or to the native version if you are already using flatpak.

[-] [email protected] 1 points 5 days ago

So... The version from Flatpak (https://flathub.org/apps/com.valvesoftware.Steam) is not official?

[-] [email protected] 1 points 5 days ago

But, anyway, I've try to set up Steam from Flatpak... But there's absolutely the same result:

chdir "/mnt/Games/Steam/steamapps/common/Super Blue Boy Planet"
Game Recording - would start recording game 560260, but recording for this game is disabled
Adding process 1300 for gameID 560260
ERROR: ld.so: object '/home/user/.var/app/com.valvesoftware.Steam/.local/share/Steam/ubuntu12_32/gameoverlayrenderer.so' from LD_PRELOAD cannot be preloaded (wrong ELF class: ELFCLASS32): ignored.
ERROR: ld.so: object '/home/user/.var/app/com.valvesoftware.Steam/.local/share/Steam/ubuntu12_32/gameoverlayrenderer.so' from LD_PRELOAD cannot be preloaded (wrong ELF class: ELFCLASS32): ignored.
ERROR: ld.so: object '/home/user/.var/app/com.valvesoftware.Steam/.local/share/Steam/ubuntu12_64/gameoverlayrenderer.so' from LD_PRELOAD cannot be preloaded (wrong ELF class: ELFCLASS64): ignored.
ERROR: ld.so: object '/home/user/.var/app/com.valvesoftware.Steam/.local/share/Steam/ubuntu12_32/gameoverlayrenderer.so' from LD_PRELOAD cannot be preloaded (wrong ELF class: ELFCLASS32): ignored.
ERROR: ld.so: object '/home/user/.var/app/com.valvesoftware.Steam/.local/share/Steam/ubuntu12_32/gameoverlayrenderer.so' from LD_PRELOAD cannot be preloaded (wrong ELF class: ELFCLASS32): ignored.
WARNING: discarding _NET_WM_PID 2416 as invalid for X11 window - use specialized XCB_X11_TO_PID function!
WARNING: discarding _NET_WM_PID 2419 as invalid for X11 window - use specialized XCB_X11_TO_PID function!
WARNING: discarding _NET_WM_PID 2731 as invalid for X11 window - use specialized XCB_X11_TO_PID function!
WARNING: discarding _NET_WM_PID 3245 as invalid for X11 window - use specialized XCB_X11_TO_PID function!
WARNING: discarding _NET_WM_PID 12018 as invalid for X11 window - use specialized XCB_X11_TO_PID function!
Adding process 1301 for gameID 560260
Adding process 1302 for gameID 560260
Adding process 1390 for gameID 560260
Proton: Upgrading prefix from None to 8.0-103 (/mnt/Games/Steam/steamapps/compatdata/560260/)
Adding process 1391 for gameID 560260
Adding process 1392 for gameID 560260
fsync: up and running.
wine: RLIMIT_NICE is <= 20, unable to use setpriority safely
Adding process 1393 for gameID 560260
Adding process 1396 for gameID 560260
Adding process 1398 for gameID 560260
Adding process 1401 for gameID 560260
Adding process 1410 for gameID 560260
Adding process 1423 for gameID 560260
Adding process 1429 for gameID 560260
Adding process 1442 for gameID 560260
Setting breakpad minidump AppID = 560260
Steam_SetMinidumpSteamID:  Caching Steam ID:  76561198248711762 [API loaded no]
Adding process 1461 for gameID 560260
pid 1394 != 1393, skipping destruction (fork without exec?)
Game Recording - game stopped [gameid=560260]
Removing process 1461 for gameID 560260
Removing process 1442 for gameID 560260
Removing process 1429 for gameID 560260
Removing process 1423 for gameID 560260
Removing process 1410 for gameID 560260
Removing process 1401 for gameID 560260
Removing process 1398 for gameID 560260
Removing process 1396 for gameID 560260
Removing process 1393 for gameID 560260
Removing process 1392 for gameID 560260
Removing process 1391 for gameID 560260
Removing process 1390 for gameID 560260
Removing process 1302 for gameID 560260
Removing process 1301 for gameID 560260
Removing process 1300 for gameID 560260

Games still don't works 🤷

[-] [email protected] 1 points 5 days ago

Try setting PROTON_USE_WINED3D=1 %command% as the game launch options for a few different games and launch them.

[-] [email protected] 1 points 4 days ago

I've try. There's the same:

https://0.jaegers.net/?cb95e3929290b0ce#FWhb5c12TyBMfuEMT22g4wyr26iLJMmaXBQpCR2gPruD https://0.jaegers.net/?e82cb333d18780f2#E9e8uYikArBrW8stWNWEuDGaoq1WtuxZfdg71aKNaebp https://0.jaegers.net/?834b61c0ef38da87#CXQM36RtENLoTZ28F1znjChkWBhcDBG3bzHkYKhGV2dj

[-] [email protected] 1 points 4 days ago

What graphics card are you using?
What is the output of lspci -nnk | grep "Kernel driver in use"
What desktop environment?
What filesystems for your root drive and mounted drive?
Is your mounted drive able to be read, written to, and have programs run on it by your regular user account?

[-] [email protected] 1 points 5 days ago

There's Unverified label...

[-] [email protected] 1 points 6 days ago

It takes about 30 minutes...

[-] [email protected] 1 points 6 days ago

Ok. I've cleaned that machine, but don't install there something yet 🤔. I'll try...

[-] [email protected] 1 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

In my experience, providing the features expected is far more important than providing specifically the systemd API.

Which is why I said:

...will encounter many absurd and esoteric problems, all of which ultimately stem from the fact that the vast majority of linux software is developed with systemd as the default, assumed, init system.

Your OS is software.

It is a gigantic maze for a non linux pro to try to figure out all of these alternate dependencies that are needed, need to be configured, and whether or not they even play nice with each other, whether or not they won't throw you into dependency conflict hell.

Generally speaking, when a normal person, who isn't a linux expert... installs an OS... they expect that it will more or less work out of the box at a fundamental level, that it will come pre-bundled with dependencies and configurations that allow them to use the software they want to use.

Hard disagree.I think the init system is more abstracted away from the developers of a game/typical user app than you are implying.

Ok, two responses to that:

You ever tried gaming on a non systemd OS?

Granted, its been a few years, but I have, and its a fucking nightmare along the lines I described.... tons of insane, esoteric nonsense going wrong all over the place, that requires you to functionally develop a solid workaround schema for everything you are trying to do, that may as well qualify you as a developer of or contributor to the OS.

I don't see anyone, anywhere, recommending a non systemd linux OS for gaming.

Second response: Okey dokey, then I'm sure you'll be able to prove that by solving this person's problem for them within Devuan.

[-] [email protected] 1 points 6 days ago

Which is why I said: ... developed with systemd as the default, assumed, init system.

Next quote I'll explain more.

...they expect that it will more or less work out of the box at a fundamental level...

Which more has to do with just being setup incorrectly, than missing systemd.

You ever tried gaming on a non systemd OS?

I do. It works.

...I'm sure you'll be able to prove that by solving this person's problem for them within Devuan.

Solving a random non-systemd user's issue is irrelevant, even if we knew a lot more about their setup.

[-] [email protected] 0 points 6 days ago

Solving a random non-systemd user's issue is irrelevant, even if we knew a lot more about their setup.

Yep, here we are in a tech support thread for some person with some issue, I have provided a solution to that issue, you are arguing that solving the person's issue is irrelevant.

Okie dokie!

... You say you've gotten gaming on a non systemd os to work.

If ... it worked with Steam... and Proton... perhaps you could suggest that OS, and whatever custom config you used, to this person?

You know, as opposed to Devuan, which is apparently set up incorrectly, out of the box, for this user?

[-] [email protected] 0 points 6 days ago

...you are arguing that solving the person's issue is irrelevant.

Irrelevant to proving. Context.

...then I'm sure you'll be able to prove that by solving...

[-] [email protected] 0 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

See, this is how a stubborn insecure person acts.

You, just now:

You ever tried gaming on a non systemd OS?

I do. It works.

You, 3 months ago:

I have firsthand experience with videogames made for one flavor of Linux not working on my machine due to dependency hell.

You know exactly the problem I am describing that comes along with trying to game on a non systemd OS, because you have experienced it yourself.

You get stuck in dependency hell because all the supporting software that is required for modern gaming... is a large mismatch, by default os config, with what is actually compatible with and developed for non systemd systems, and it requires a massive amount of effort to get anything into a reasonably stable and reasonably working state.

I ask you to provide your experience directly, which could genuienly help this person, and you instead want to nitpick vocabulary in a sophomoric manner so that you can feel you are more correct by virtue of 'well, ackshually'....

...and your approach to trying to solve the problem is robotic, run through standard error output log, identify error... theorize solution...

... even though you personally know that approach will be very time consuming and frustrating.

In conclusion, boy you must be great at parties.

[-] [email protected] 2 points 6 days ago

But if we get a fiasco - I'll try PikaOS.

[-] [email protected] 2 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

… even though you personally know that approach will be very time consuming and frustrating.

I know. But I want to solve this. It will gave me some experience in Linux Administration.

In conclusion; boy, you must be great at parties.

Thanks... So I don't visits parties, and I don't sees any sense in this.

[-] [email protected] 2 points 6 days ago

You know exactly the problem I am describing that comes along with trying to game on a non systemd OS, because you have experienced it yourself.

Sorry, but that issue had nothing to do with systemd.

[-] [email protected] 2 points 6 days ago

It's sad 😟

[-] [email protected] 3 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

I truly wish there was some simple misconfiguration that you could change, or some reasonable hotfix that could easily be trouble shot by randos on lemmy...

But in all likelihood... yeah, you'd have to basically develop Devuan to support Proton, or develop Proton to support Devuan, or potentially both.

If you wanna do gaming on linux, right now I'd suggest Bazzite as probably the most user friendly, hard to break, runs games and most other software well alternative.

You could also just switch back to plain Debian, its not quitr as user friendly or gamer optimized, but it absolutely will work.

On the other hand, if you wanna jump into a different Debian based system... PikaOS is still somewhat experimental, but it is basically a stripped down and gamer-optimized version of Debian, its based on systemd so you won't have these kinds of problems... and from recent benchmark tests I've seen, it actually outperforms Bazzite, Nobara, CentOS, many other common distros typically suggested for linux gaming... meaning, more FPS for the same game at the same settings on the same hardware.

[-] [email protected] 3 points 6 days ago

I'll try PikaOS then...

[-] [email protected] 2 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

If you are new to linux, and you want something that basically 'just works', I'd suggest you try Bazzite first.

It is much easier for a person with little linux experience to use.

Linux is kind of infamous for allowing the user to have the ability to customize and alter basically every aspect of the OS.

This is great for very experienced linux users, but it can often lead newer linux users to accidentally ... basically destroying their OS.

Bazzite has good functionality, comes with pre configured tweaks to make gaming performance better, comes with apps gamers commonly use, much much easier... and, the way it is designed, it basically has a bunch of built in safety mechanisms to make it much more difficult to break the OS.

I have never actually used PikaOS... if you are considerably experienced with Debian based distros, I'd guess you could probably handle it...

But if you are brand new to linux, and mostly just want something that works for games, and other fairly common desktop apps?

I'd go with Bazzite.

If you do decide to switch OSs, please remember to make a backup copy of all your personal files on a seperate harddrive before you make the switch.

On the other hand... you could wait it out and see if other people in this thread can actually troubleshoot and solve your problem.

Personally, I am doubtful they will be able to, but I do not know everything, and I could be wrong, perhaps there is some fairly straightforward fix.

[-] [email protected] 3 points 6 days ago

comes with apps gamers commonly use

What are these apps? Because I don't use Discord or other "not-privacy"-friendly apps. I use only Steam of these 😅. Because from Steam I only plays in FA with my friend. For communication - I use Mumble for example.

it basically has a bunch of built in safety mechanisms to make it much more difficult to break the OS

Is this actually Linux? 🤔

please remember to make a backup copy of all your personal files on a seperate harddrive before you make the switch

It's too late 🙃

Personally, I am doubtful they will be able to, but I do not know everything, and I could be wrong, perhaps there is some fairly straightforward fix.

I also already doubt this 😟. And I've already cleaned that machine.

[-] [email protected] 2 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

https://docs.bazzite.gg/

What are these apps?

Well, you have things like EmuDeck, for emulating console games,

Lutris, for an alternative, non Steam way to run games via WINE or Proton,

Protontricks to help manage and configure WINE and Proton...

A whole bunch of other stuff that may or may not interest you.

Is this actually Linux?

Yes, it is, it is built off of the Fedora Atomic model.

So... the simple explanation is that the core operating system is read-only, unalterable, in most situations.

The core libraries of the OS are managed by the developers, who make the 'recipe' of all the core stuff, and update it and occasionally add to it... the user can override this and add in new core libraries, but it is highly advised against, and the terminal will yell at you that you are probably doing something stupid when you try.

That being said, if you do mess up the core libraries... you can use

rpm-ostree rollback

And that will revert you to the last, stable, bootable configuration, which it automatically keeps backups of, locally.

Then, almost all applications and software are run through flatpak, which keeps them self-contained, so if they break, it is only them that break, not your whole system.

If you want to do something that requires more control over a linux in a tradtional linux sense... Bazzite comes with DistroBox, which basically allows you to have multiple linux oss download their own libraries in their own box, and then you can do more advanced tinkering in there.

(technically it is quite complicated, as i understsnd it, distrobox is basically ... customized, fancy docker images, if you are familiar with docker)

It's too late 🙃

sigh

I tried.

I tried to warn you!

I also already doubt this 😟. And I've already cleaned that machine.

Welp.

No turning back.

It looks like you are prepared to go all the way.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=-00uQzXyujI&t=152s

lol

I.. I hope you do already know how to... flash an iso to a usb drive, and that you have not just wiped out your only means of downloading said iso.

Good luck!

[-] [email protected] 2 points 6 days ago

As I know - Red Hat developed SystemD? Fedora - is Red Hat, Bazzite - is Fedora?

[-] [email protected] 2 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

I... think SystemD has been around for quite a while, I am not sure who developed it originally.

20+ years ago, Fedora emerged out of Red Hat EnterpriseLinux, basically as the not business oriented, general use version of Red Hat.

The details are complicated, but by now, Fedora has advanced so much that RHEL is actually based off of Fedora; they use the more mature parts of Fedora that have proved to be very stable.

Bazzite is based off of Fedora, specifally the system Fedora uses for Atomic versions of Fedora. Like I tried to describe earlier, the Atomic variants of Fedora take a different approach and try to section off the core OS, keep it safer and more stable, and provide different kinds of containers or boxes for the user to run apps in, or experiment around in.

Bazzite is not officially a Fedora Atomic distro, made by the Fedora project... but their whole Atomic system is open source, so the Bazzite team uses it as a basis for their even more gaming focused OS.

Sort of similar to how PikaOS or Devuan or Ubuntu or PopOS! are based off of Debian... or the modern SteamOS that steam deck's natively run on is based off of Arch.

[-] [email protected] 2 points 5 days ago

Ok. I'll know 🤔

[-] [email protected] 2 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

I tried to warn you!

Yeap! It's so)

I… I hope you do already know how to… flash an iso to a usb drive, and that you have not just wiped out your only means of downloading said iso.

Yeap! I almost an advanced user 🙃. I reinstall an OS on my PC about 9.999.999.999 times... (maybe a little bit less)

But I want to try firstly that here's someone can hint me 😉

Yes, it is, it is built off of the Fedora Atomic model.

So… the simple explanation is that the core operating system is read-only, unalterable, in most situations.

The core libraries of the OS are managed by the developers, who make the ‘recipe’ of all the core stuff, and update it and occasionally add to it… the user can override this and add in new core libraries, but it is highly advised against, and the terminal will yell at you that you are probably doing something stupid when you try.

That being said, if you do mess up the core libraries… you can use

rpm-ostree rollback

And that will revert you to the last, stable, bootable configuration, which it automatically keeps backups of, locally.

Then, almost all applications and software are run through flatpak, which keeps them self-contained, so if they break, it is only them that break, not your whole system.

If you want to do something that requires more control over a linux in a tradtional linux sense… Bazzite comes with DistroBox, which basically allows you to have multiple linux oss download their own libraries in their own box, and then you can do more advanced tinkering in there.

(technically it is quite complicated, as i understsnd it, distrobox is basically … customized, fancy docker images, if you are familiar with docker)

It seems that it is the most user-friendly distribution. But there's so many proprietary softs as I guess 🤔

[-] [email protected] 1 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

I'll try someone from these. But how do we lives before SystemD then? 🤔

P.S: And Bazzite has a logo... cough-cough...

[-] [email protected] 0 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

To bastardize a Winston Churchill quote:

SystemD is a flawed init system... but in the grand scheme of things, it is the least flawed init system that's been developed thus far, for 99% of users.

[-] [email protected] 9 points 1 week ago

Try opening steam via a terminal and opening a game. You should see the problem launching the game in the terminal, might be permissions.

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[-] [email protected] 9 points 1 week ago

What games? Which Steam Proton and Wine-GE versions do we talk about?

BTW there is also a Proton GE and you can use it in Steam as well. Just saying. Some games do need a specific Steam Proton version, either an older or newer one, such as Proton Experimental. Some games are only working with Proton GE (or Wine GE).

And you can always lookup if the game works, by looking into reports from Protondb website (user generated).

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[-] Mwa 3 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Advice: I don't recommend using wine-ge because it has not been maintained in a while and it's archived on github

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How do I create logs of a game I run with Proton?

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