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[-] [email protected] 29 points 2 days ago

Starlink should be globalized. A planet only needs one low-altitude orbiting communications network. Better to standardize the technology and platform and let them contribute to one system than to have a dozen identical competing systems crashing into each other and fucking things up for everyone.

[-] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago

Ah. My Kessler syndrome is acting up again.

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[-] [email protected] 15 points 2 days ago

I disagree.

  1. You already have a government space agency. Maybe give them more funding so they don't have to rely on space-x to get their stuff into orbit?

  2. There's a national telecom network already in place. It at least has the potential to be faster and more reliable, if it isn't already... At least compared to low earth orbit satellite coverage.

There's no good reason to continue providing Elon or his companies with any government handouts. Pull that funding and give it to.... I dunno, students who have more debt than homeowners with a mortgage..... NASA.... Literally anything that helps people?

[-] [email protected] 13 points 2 days ago

No, we should regain control of our nation from fascists (this does not mean just replace the President), then nationalize SpaceX and Starlink, and make telecoms public utilities.

[-] [email protected] 31 points 3 days ago

Don't give bail-outs to billionaires.

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[-] [email protected] 20 points 3 days ago

Nasa with less risk aversion. If a Nasa rocket blows up that's big news. If a Space X rocket blows up, that's a Tuesday.

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[-] [email protected] 299 points 4 days ago

Yeah I mean the tax payers have literally already paid for all of both SpaceX and Starlink. The public paid for it, the public should own it.

[-] [email protected] 97 points 4 days ago

They're just following in the footsteps of Comcast. The FCC gave SpaceX/Starlink $885.5 million to provide rural broadband after they gave Comcast over $1 billion less than 5 years ago to do the same thing. Starlink actually works out there from what I understand, so I guess that's something.

[-] [email protected] 109 points 4 days ago

The main problem is that starlink is not a viable ISP like Comcast. Relying on low earth orbit is extremely wasteful as you need to constantly launch more and more satellites. Starlink gives their satellites a 5 year lifespan where fiber can go on for 40 years or more. There are 7,500 starlink satellites, so we're talking a constant replacement of satellites all falling into earth's atmosphere, not being recycled.

Starlink is literal space trash waiting to happen.

[-] [email protected] 65 points 4 days ago

I didn't realize how temporary and disposable Starlink's satellites were. They incinerate 4 or 5 a day by de-orbiting them into the ozone. Here's a pretty good CNET article that talks about how they “dispose” of them. IDK, doesn't seem sustainable. They also mention the bandwidth gains are being diminished with the influx of new users, so their solution is more temporary satellites.

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[-] [email protected] 73 points 3 days ago

We should just fund NASA and let SpaceX and Starlink go bankrupt to competitors.

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[-] [email protected] 6 points 2 days ago

I am not saying that I don't agree with you. But this country is still not even close to considering nationalizing its own telecommunication infrastructure. Much less a privately held space company and a service of communication satellites. A large chunk of America believes that a for-profit business model for every good and service possible in life is the best course of action.

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[-] [email protected] 99 points 4 days ago

Has anyone considered funding NASA?

They made rockets that didn't explode with duct tape and a TI-83 calculator.

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[-] [email protected] 6 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

A lot of people are calling this a bailout for Elon, but in reality it would be a seizure. Elon doesn't want to let go of Starlink and the US likely wouldn't pay him what it's worth to take it over.

What people seem to be missing is the precedent this would set. It's all well and good when we empower the office of the president to seize a private company we don't like, but after we give them that power what's to stop them from seizing other businesses?

XYZ company refuses to get rid of their DEI policy because the shareholders voted to keep it? Well now the orange man can seize it.

Let's not forget that previously it took 2/3rd majority to confirm presidential appointments, but the Senate under Obama decided to change that rule to 50% to get past Republican objections. The result of this is all these shit appointments Trump has passed with 51% of the Senate, none of them would have gotten by if the Democrats hadn't made a precedent for changing the rules.

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[-] [email protected] 140 points 4 days ago

You could always just fund the space agency you already have, instead of funneling money to a foreign billionaire.

[-] [email protected] 68 points 4 days ago

No this the one time I’m with the commies. Nationalize that shit. Like you said it’s all taxpayer money anyway. A little bit of Wall Street speculation, but who gives a fuck about those people

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[-] [email protected] 34 points 3 days ago

Arrest Musk on violation of controlled substances acts, file immigration violation charges, invalidate his ownership shares due to securities fraud, as he falsified education and naturalization forms.

Or just emminent domain the shit. The Law is just made up right now.

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[-] [email protected] 74 points 3 days ago

Yeah, let's give the trump administration the power to seize companies it doesn't like, that is a great idea that def won't be abused all the time

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[-] [email protected] 20 points 3 days ago

If not Musk should be forced from his roles in these companies. You cannot be a defense contractor and do ketamine.

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[-] [email protected] 6 points 2 days ago

There's already NASA which gets piss poor funding iirc

[-] [email protected] 41 points 3 days ago

I don’t think the majority of Americans understand what that means. They’ll just scream “commies!” And raise their maga flag.

But the idea of a starlink-like business owned by UN would be nice, and not an American corporation owned by a nepobaby Elmo.

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[-] [email protected] 8 points 2 days ago

Best time would've been when he pulled that stunt in Ukraine, second best time is now

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[-] [email protected] 98 points 4 days ago
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[-] [email protected] 7 points 2 days ago

Throw Musk in prison for his many documented crimes, but don't support this kind of dictator shit.

[-] [email protected] 50 points 4 days ago

Lets reach a compromise. Impeach Trump (successfully) and then take away SpaceX from Elon. That way things would be fair.

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[-] [email protected] 21 points 3 days ago

I've been saying this for years. the footprint that spaceX represents in national launch authority is out of whack to say the least.

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