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3 heavy-weight riders shall start: Pogatchar (🇸🇮 UAE), Vingegaard (🇩🇰 Visma) and Evenepoel (🇧🇪 Soudal-QS).

There will be a few outsiders as well, like Lipowitz (🇩🇪 Bora), Mas (🇪🇸 Movistar) or L. Martinez (🇫🇷 Bahrein).

This will be the last professional race of Romain Bardet (🇫🇷 Picnic). On the other side of the age spectrum, Seixas (🇫🇷 Decathlon) will start his first major race.

During the first half of the race, sprinters and punchers will battle for stages: Milan (🇮🇹 Lidl-Trek), Healy (🇮🇪 EF)...

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[-] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Stage 8

Last stage. Basically, the riders will simply ride up the valley of the Maurienne (or valley of the Arc) and, from time to time, wander on its slopes to generate a climb. The final climb is about 10 km long, with a 7% gradient. The finish line is then laid after 5 km of a slightly bumpy plateau, which is in fact a part of the road around the Mont-Cenis reservoir.

Will Pogatchar allow other riders to win the green and dotted jerseys? At the moment, he leads the points classification (with the same number of points as Van der Poel) and the mountain classification (with the same number of points as Buitrago and Higuita)...

[-] [email protected] 2 points 10 hours ago

Will Pogatchar allow other riders to win the green and dotted jerseys? At the moment, he leads the points classification (with the same number of points as Van der Poel) and the mountain classification (with the same number of points as Buitrago and Higuita)…

For the mountain jersey, Armirail (🇫🇷 Décathlon) managed to score a few points at almost each climb in the breakaway, and take over everybody, even Pogatchar who scored a few points in the final climb.

For the green jersey, Van der Poel (🇳🇱 Alpecin) got in the breakaway too and scored the best points of the intermediate sprint. However, Pogatchar finished 3^rd^ of the stage and thus scored the same number of points. As they both started and finished today with the same number of points, and the second criterium is the number of stage victories, Pogatchar gets the green jersey.


Seixas (🇫🇷 Décathlon) proved that he is the worthy successor of Thibault Pinot by crashing while riding uphill in the final climb of the final day of this Criterium du Dauphiné, thereby losing 2 places in GC 😬

[-] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago

Stage 7

Moutain episode #2 out of 3. The big one. Starting directly with 2 very long climbs with no flat at all before or in between: Col de la Madeleine and Col de la Croix de Fer, each of them climbing for more than 20 kilometres. Then come a more relaxed part before the final climb to a ski resort above St-Michel de Maurienne, this climb embedding 75% of the Col du Télégraphe climb before diverging.

Let's see if Vingegaard can be better on this type of climbs than the shorter ones we had on Stage #6 (on the other hand, he seemed better on the shortest and steepest one of the two...).

[-] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago

Let’s see if Vingegaard can be better on this type of climbs than the shorter ones we had on Stage #6 (on the other hand, he seemed better on the shortest and steepest one of the two…).

Mmwell... Pogatchar did again what he wanted to do, when he wanted to do it, and nothing could prevent it.

[-] [email protected] 1 points 3 days ago

Stage 6

The last 3 stages are mountain stages, with final climbs. On Friday, we have 2 steep but relatively short climbs in the second half of the course; however, they are separated by 25 of flat valley, so we can suppose that the serious things will wait for the final climb. It presents 3 thirds: the 1^st^ one is rather steep (> 9%), the middle one softer probably around 5%, and the last one of your normal 7-8% grade.

[-] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago

None of the 2 Visma, nor anyone else could resist Pogatchar today... The hopes for a Vingegaard better than Pogatchar this week, and therefore able to fight on the Tour of France in a few weeks from now, were rather disappointed.


UAE, VIsma and Decathlon leaders had respectively 1, 2 and 1 teammate(s) in the flat valley after the first hard climb, yet nobody pulled. I think it is understandable from the point of view of UAE and Visma who were just trying to eliminate each other without much consideration for outsiders, and called it a draw until the last climb when they saw they were still together; however I think Armirail should have pulled for Seixas as it would have been beneficial for him to leave all the guys from the second group behind, instead of letting them come back for free.

[-] [email protected] 1 points 4 days ago

Stage 5

The time trial is past, we go back to the scheme of the first stage, cranking the difficulty a bit up again, and also packing those climbs in the second half of the stage. Despite what I just said, there is just a tiny bump in the last 30 kilometres, so everything is actually packed in the 3^rd^ quarter of the race, which won't offer much rest.

[-] [email protected] 1 points 3 days ago

J. Milan finally found his climbing legs! Unfortunately, he lost his sprinting legs in the process.

Despite the playing field which was proposed, many teams preferred to race for a sprint today.

[-] [email protected] 1 points 3 days ago

It was quite a surprise to see Stewart come out of nothing for that win, but very deserved and well done!

[-] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago

(Caveat: I didn't see any replay of the final, so I only have my first impression – which often turns out faulty after checking – as a base...) With the curves, positioning played a big role, it didn't look like anyone could produce a really big kick in the last straight line. Then a legless Milan went backwards, and Van der Poel was cooked by his efforts in the previous mile to keep position because he worn his teammates out earlier (also possibly a bit by his staying at the very front of the peloton in the last climb); Penhoët was simply being Penhoët: this guy always finishes around the 5^th^ place, no matter who the guys ahead of him are, you'd put him in a local junior race, he would still finish 4^th^ 😄

[-] [email protected] 2 points 5 days ago

Stage 4

The time trial. The length and profile are of very common types these days: 17 km flat, with a climb (about 2 km at 8%) in the middle.

[-] [email protected] 2 points 4 days ago

Fairly short TTs seem to be the norm these days. This looks like a slot-in for Evenepoel, but I guess we should also expect the other favourites to be in the mix. Curious to see who will place better between Pog & Vingegaard and if Romeo and Lipowitz can keep up with them.

[-] [email protected] 2 points 4 days ago

This looks like a slot-in for Evenepoel, but I guess we should also expect the other favourites to be in the mix.

You predicted it right, except for Jorgenson inserting himself between Vingegaard and Pogatchar (who finished only 4^th^: we could have expected him to come 2^nd^, ahead of Vingegaard and outsiders).

if Romeo and Lipowitz can keep up with them.

Both (and Van der Poel too) came close to keep or take the yellow jersey. But Evenepoel crushed everyone, favourites and yesterday's breakawaymen.

[-] [email protected] 2 points 4 days ago

That's surprisingly strong from Jorgenson. Vingegaard seems to be in great shape, but I wonder if he's peaking too early.

If he can find another two percent before the TdF I expect he will win, maybe even convincingly. In a way I hope so, I would be disconcerted if Pog can ride a spring like this and still dominate in the tour.

[-] [email protected] 1 points 4 days ago

Poole has apparently fallen during the time trial. Does this mean that Bardet will be forced to play GC now, as he is now 45 seconds ahead of the following Picnic riders?

[-] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago

Next day, during the first mountain stage, Poole apparently abandoned and all other Picnic riders including Bardet finished 13 minutes and more behind... So, it will be all for breakaways in the last two stages. Or nothing at all.

[-] [email protected] 1 points 4 days ago

We shall know more after 1 or 2 mountain days, I suppose.

Pogatchar didn't look wonderful on the attacks of the the first day compared to the others: he always need a little bit of delay to catch up, he never initiated any move, and his relays were sort of fake. However, given the circumstances of the finish, he still won 😆

[-] [email protected] 1 points 5 days ago

Stage 3

A rather similar profile again, but with more 3^rd^ category climbs. The last one is located about 15 km from the finish line: short but rather steep, it may be enough to eliminate sprinters like Milan. That is if, unlike yesterday, a team attempts to eliminate him...

[-] [email protected] 1 points 5 days ago

Trek didn't want to pull on the flat to give a chance to Milan, and the rest of the peloton didn't want to pull or attack, nobody wanted to use the work of the favorites' teams had done to keep the gap low. Therefore the breakaway made it, in spite of all its effort to fail at it.

[-] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago

Stage 1

The organiser has placed no less than 7 4^th^ category climbs over this 1^st^ stage, all of them in the second half of the route, which includes a long circuit ridden a bit more than 2 times. Each climb only grants a single mountain point to the first rider.

[-] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago

A stage for sprinters and possibly sprinters-punchers.

Result:

  1. Pogatchar
  2. Vingegaard

It is going to be a long week 😬

[-] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago

Weird stage. Did enjoy the finish, though, as much as it promises a predictable race.

[-] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago

Yeah, the same race finish with different names would have reconciled everybody. 😀

[-] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago

Yes, indeed, if you didn't know any of the riders and this was your first finish you'd be pretty pleased. It had a lot of excitement.

I'm just happy there seems to be more competition for Pogacar this year. Vingegaard seems to be in great shape, almost had Pog in the sprint.

Would I enjoy things more if we had an even field of 5-6 riders who could win here and in the tour? Yes, but we don't. So I'll settle for a real competition between the top two.

[-] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago

I'm going to have to insist you change Vingegaard's flag from a Norwegian one to a proper Danish one, mate 😂 🇩🇰

[-] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

I was sure it would happen one day, especially given the fact that, at this size, both flags look rather similar. Anyway, you guys are all the same 😜 the only difference is that you don't wear pretty trousers when you play curling.

[-] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Stage 2

A stage pretty similar to the first one, with another 6 small climbs to provide a bit of animation for the mountain jersey: two 4^th^ cat and two 3^rd^ cat. (2 & 1 pts) in the beginning of the course, then one 2^nd^ cat. (5, 3, 2 & 1 pts) much later and one last 4^th^ cat. near the end.

As on many (all?) French races, the amount of points offered is meagre, so there is not much point in fighting if you cannot be first. Same goes for the points classification, as there is a single intermediate sprint per day and it only gives points for the first 3 riders: therefore, there cannot be even a small sprint from the peloton after a small breakaway has already gone through the sprint line.

That's a big difference from the Giro d'Italia which just ended, where points were given to many more riders.

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