▲ 119 ▼ Discord CTO says he’s “constantly bringing up enshittification” during meetings (arstechnica.com) submitted 1 year ago by sabreW4K3@lazysoci.al to c/technology@beehaw.org 27 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[–] webghost0101@sopuli.xyz 46 points 1 year ago (6 children) So does anyone know a proper alternative that doesn’t scare every non-tech person on my server? I already lost people when we initially moved from a facebook group to discord. I believe i can self-host a matrix client but no idea how well it will work with people currently having notifications by discord bot on their phone permalink fedilink source hideshow 12 child comments replies: [–] ElectricWaterfall@lemmy.zip 62 points 1 year ago (1 child) There’s very little that doesn’t scare non tech people. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] nesc@lemmy.cafe 10 points 1 year ago (2 children) According to tech people. 🙃 permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] dwindling7373@feddit.it 15 points 1 year ago (2 children) Sadly, no. I managed to bring a friend on Signal after years, 3 monthes later they asked me if it's ok if we talk on WhatsApp because it's too bothersome to use two different apps. smh my head. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 13 points 1 year ago (1 child) 3 [months] later they asked me if it’s ok if we talk on WhatsApp because it’s too bothersome to use two different apps. Hey, remember in the age of about 9 different messenger protocols, when Pidgin allowed you to message people on the platform they preferred without too much fuss? The "things we lost in the post-y2k culling of clue and mentorship" box is running out of space. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] beyond@linkage.ds8.zone 2 points 1 year ago Pidgin is still around, and you can even use discord with it (no voice, mind you). I would like to bring the multi-platform client back. permalink fedilink source parent [–] nesc@lemmy.cafe 3 points 1 year ago That's not because it's scary or people can't understand how to use it, it's just bothersome. permalink fedilink source parent [–] kittenzrulz123@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 1 year ago No, people just don't want to learn anything. They want everything to stay the same and never make compromises. No there is never a drop in one to one replacement for Discord or Windows or whatever else. permalink fedilink source parent [–] sabreW4K3@lazysoci.al [S] 18 points 1 year ago (2 children) Revolt is probably the closest fit https://revolt.chat/ permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Damage@feddit.it 7 points 1 year ago (1 child) poor name choice permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] nesc@lemmy.cafe 6 points 1 year ago (1 child) How is it better then discord? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Damage@feddit.it 3 points 1 year ago Well, discording is better than revolting permalink fedilink source parent [–] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 year ago https://revolt.chat/ Safe binaries we can validate with signed manifests, or just ISO27002-violating FlatSnappImage spooge? permalink fedilink source parent [–] disco@lemdro.id 16 points 1 year ago (2 children) I heard Element just added screensharing permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] ekky@sopuli.xyz 13 points 1 year ago It's still in beta and audio appears to not always work when streaming. Though, there's recent activity on the related issues, so hopefully it gets out of beta before Discord alienates the regular user. I tested it a few days ago and besides the audio problem it appears to work very well. permalink fedilink source parent [–] pinball_wizard@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 year ago Element with Matrix.org is getting pretty decent. permalink fedilink source parent [–] MagicShel@lemmy.zip 6 points 1 year ago* (1 child) I signed up with Matrix and it was not seamless but maybe a private server would be great and they could go from there (but that feels like a long term commitment to supporting those users). I haven't really played much with it. Tried getting the folks in my discord server to give it a try but they haven't and they are tech folks. I would say it's not ready for normies, but I really wish it was. I still have it installed on my phone, but I don't really have anywhere interesting to go. Same with Signal TBH—it's installed but no one I know uses it. Still waiting on my invite from the Secretary of Defense. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 year ago feels like a long term commitment says the guy who also says my discord server as if the two ideas aren't the same. If you do it right, too, the private server is $0 in continuing labour. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Sina@beehaw.org 3 points 1 year ago I believe i can self-host a matrix client but no idea how well it will work with people currently having notifications by discord bot on their phone In my opinion discord is not yet enshittified enough for these problems to be easily solved. Give it a couple more years, if matrix gains just a bit more traction, the scaffolding to do stuff like that will be worked out. permalink fedilink source parent [–] clang@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 year ago Keet is pretty cool and (granted I am a tech person) is pretty dead simple to use. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ElectricWaterfall@lemmy.zip 62 points 1 year ago (1 child) There’s very little that doesn’t scare non tech people. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] nesc@lemmy.cafe 10 points 1 year ago (2 children) According to tech people. 🙃 permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] dwindling7373@feddit.it 15 points 1 year ago (2 children) Sadly, no. I managed to bring a friend on Signal after years, 3 monthes later they asked me if it's ok if we talk on WhatsApp because it's too bothersome to use two different apps. smh my head. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 13 points 1 year ago (1 child) 3 [months] later they asked me if it’s ok if we talk on WhatsApp because it’s too bothersome to use two different apps. Hey, remember in the age of about 9 different messenger protocols, when Pidgin allowed you to message people on the platform they preferred without too much fuss? The "things we lost in the post-y2k culling of clue and mentorship" box is running out of space. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] beyond@linkage.ds8.zone 2 points 1 year ago Pidgin is still around, and you can even use discord with it (no voice, mind you). I would like to bring the multi-platform client back. permalink fedilink source parent [–] nesc@lemmy.cafe 3 points 1 year ago That's not because it's scary or people can't understand how to use it, it's just bothersome. permalink fedilink source parent [–] kittenzrulz123@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 1 year ago No, people just don't want to learn anything. They want everything to stay the same and never make compromises. No there is never a drop in one to one replacement for Discord or Windows or whatever else. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] nesc@lemmy.cafe 10 points 1 year ago (2 children) According to tech people. 🙃 permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] dwindling7373@feddit.it 15 points 1 year ago (2 children) Sadly, no. I managed to bring a friend on Signal after years, 3 monthes later they asked me if it's ok if we talk on WhatsApp because it's too bothersome to use two different apps. smh my head. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 13 points 1 year ago (1 child) 3 [months] later they asked me if it’s ok if we talk on WhatsApp because it’s too bothersome to use two different apps. Hey, remember in the age of about 9 different messenger protocols, when Pidgin allowed you to message people on the platform they preferred without too much fuss? The "things we lost in the post-y2k culling of clue and mentorship" box is running out of space. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] beyond@linkage.ds8.zone 2 points 1 year ago Pidgin is still around, and you can even use discord with it (no voice, mind you). I would like to bring the multi-platform client back. permalink fedilink source parent [–] nesc@lemmy.cafe 3 points 1 year ago That's not because it's scary or people can't understand how to use it, it's just bothersome. permalink fedilink source parent [–] kittenzrulz123@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 1 year ago No, people just don't want to learn anything. They want everything to stay the same and never make compromises. No there is never a drop in one to one replacement for Discord or Windows or whatever else. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] dwindling7373@feddit.it 15 points 1 year ago (2 children) Sadly, no. I managed to bring a friend on Signal after years, 3 monthes later they asked me if it's ok if we talk on WhatsApp because it's too bothersome to use two different apps. smh my head. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 13 points 1 year ago (1 child) 3 [months] later they asked me if it’s ok if we talk on WhatsApp because it’s too bothersome to use two different apps. Hey, remember in the age of about 9 different messenger protocols, when Pidgin allowed you to message people on the platform they preferred without too much fuss? The "things we lost in the post-y2k culling of clue and mentorship" box is running out of space. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] beyond@linkage.ds8.zone 2 points 1 year ago Pidgin is still around, and you can even use discord with it (no voice, mind you). I would like to bring the multi-platform client back. permalink fedilink source parent [–] nesc@lemmy.cafe 3 points 1 year ago That's not because it's scary or people can't understand how to use it, it's just bothersome. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 13 points 1 year ago (1 child) 3 [months] later they asked me if it’s ok if we talk on WhatsApp because it’s too bothersome to use two different apps. Hey, remember in the age of about 9 different messenger protocols, when Pidgin allowed you to message people on the platform they preferred without too much fuss? The "things we lost in the post-y2k culling of clue and mentorship" box is running out of space. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] beyond@linkage.ds8.zone 2 points 1 year ago Pidgin is still around, and you can even use discord with it (no voice, mind you). I would like to bring the multi-platform client back. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] beyond@linkage.ds8.zone 2 points 1 year ago Pidgin is still around, and you can even use discord with it (no voice, mind you). I would like to bring the multi-platform client back. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] nesc@lemmy.cafe 3 points 1 year ago That's not because it's scary or people can't understand how to use it, it's just bothersome. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] kittenzrulz123@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 1 year ago No, people just don't want to learn anything. They want everything to stay the same and never make compromises. No there is never a drop in one to one replacement for Discord or Windows or whatever else. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] sabreW4K3@lazysoci.al [S] 18 points 1 year ago (2 children) Revolt is probably the closest fit https://revolt.chat/ permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Damage@feddit.it 7 points 1 year ago (1 child) poor name choice permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] nesc@lemmy.cafe 6 points 1 year ago (1 child) How is it better then discord? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Damage@feddit.it 3 points 1 year ago Well, discording is better than revolting permalink fedilink source parent [–] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 year ago https://revolt.chat/ Safe binaries we can validate with signed manifests, or just ISO27002-violating FlatSnappImage spooge? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Damage@feddit.it 7 points 1 year ago (1 child) poor name choice permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] nesc@lemmy.cafe 6 points 1 year ago (1 child) How is it better then discord? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Damage@feddit.it 3 points 1 year ago Well, discording is better than revolting permalink fedilink source parent
[–] nesc@lemmy.cafe 6 points 1 year ago (1 child) How is it better then discord? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Damage@feddit.it 3 points 1 year ago Well, discording is better than revolting permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Damage@feddit.it 3 points 1 year ago Well, discording is better than revolting permalink fedilink source parent
[–] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 year ago https://revolt.chat/ Safe binaries we can validate with signed manifests, or just ISO27002-violating FlatSnappImage spooge? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] disco@lemdro.id 16 points 1 year ago (2 children) I heard Element just added screensharing permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] ekky@sopuli.xyz 13 points 1 year ago It's still in beta and audio appears to not always work when streaming. Though, there's recent activity on the related issues, so hopefully it gets out of beta before Discord alienates the regular user. I tested it a few days ago and besides the audio problem it appears to work very well. permalink fedilink source parent [–] pinball_wizard@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 year ago Element with Matrix.org is getting pretty decent. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ekky@sopuli.xyz 13 points 1 year ago It's still in beta and audio appears to not always work when streaming. Though, there's recent activity on the related issues, so hopefully it gets out of beta before Discord alienates the regular user. I tested it a few days ago and besides the audio problem it appears to work very well. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] pinball_wizard@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 year ago Element with Matrix.org is getting pretty decent. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] MagicShel@lemmy.zip 6 points 1 year ago* (1 child) I signed up with Matrix and it was not seamless but maybe a private server would be great and they could go from there (but that feels like a long term commitment to supporting those users). I haven't really played much with it. Tried getting the folks in my discord server to give it a try but they haven't and they are tech folks. I would say it's not ready for normies, but I really wish it was. I still have it installed on my phone, but I don't really have anywhere interesting to go. Same with Signal TBH—it's installed but no one I know uses it. Still waiting on my invite from the Secretary of Defense. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 year ago feels like a long term commitment says the guy who also says my discord server as if the two ideas aren't the same. If you do it right, too, the private server is $0 in continuing labour. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 year ago feels like a long term commitment says the guy who also says my discord server as if the two ideas aren't the same. If you do it right, too, the private server is $0 in continuing labour. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Sina@beehaw.org 3 points 1 year ago I believe i can self-host a matrix client but no idea how well it will work with people currently having notifications by discord bot on their phone In my opinion discord is not yet enshittified enough for these problems to be easily solved. Give it a couple more years, if matrix gains just a bit more traction, the scaffolding to do stuff like that will be worked out. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] clang@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 year ago Keet is pretty cool and (granted I am a tech person) is pretty dead simple to use. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] nesc@lemmy.cafe 32 points 1 year ago It already is (and was long before any ads) permalink fedilink source
[–] CassiniWarden@infosec.pub [B] 18 points 1 year ago (1 child) waiting for the day we're all on IRC again... permalink fedilink source hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] death916@lemmy.death916.xyz 2 points 1 year ago Never left permalink fedilink source parent
[–] vintageballs@feddit.org 18 points 1 year ago With discord already being pretty shitty, I am interested in what ideas they are coming up with. permalink fedilink source
[+] gronjo45@lemm.ee 15 points 1 year ago (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] pineapplelover@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago (1 child) You could use jitsi meet. Kinda similar to zoom though imo permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] WilfordGrimley@linux.community 3 points 1 year ago I think you can also use Jitsi as a plugin from within Matrix permalink fedilink source parent
[–] pineapplelover@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago (1 child) You could use jitsi meet. Kinda similar to zoom though imo permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] WilfordGrimley@linux.community 3 points 1 year ago I think you can also use Jitsi as a plugin from within Matrix permalink fedilink source parent
[–] WilfordGrimley@linux.community 3 points 1 year ago I think you can also use Jitsi as a plugin from within Matrix permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ranandtoldthat@beehaw.org 11 points 1 year ago I read the article, but nothing can convince me the discord execs aren't purely thinking of how ways to further enshittify. permalink fedilink source
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