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[-] [email protected] 12 points 3 days ago

No they fucking aren't. That shit would be so much more expensive than a person. Liars, and not even particularly good ones.

[-] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago

Yup, and people seem to frequently underestimate how ridiculously expensive running a fleet of humanoid robots would be (and don’t seem to realize how comparatively low the manual labor it’d replace is paid.)

[-] [email protected] 5 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

I mean apparently they're partnering with a private robotics company. The picture is an actual model of the company's robot. Whether or not they actually end up implementing this, they're allegedly currently training the robots.

Presumably, if nothing else, Amazon/Bezos is probably getting some sweet federal kick backs to attempt this and further the current administration's agenda to beat "Gyna" in the science and tech race. Except unlike Gyna, the U.S. is firing all of their scientists (which, until Jan. 2025, was one area that the U.S. had unquestionably dominated China) bc they think AI can replace them too.

So now, they're just handing all the resources to the kind of technocratic "elites" who are used to just purchasing their good ideas, rather than actually creating anything. This is also why they seem to genuinely believe something like Amazon humanoids is a sound investment, "durr, we don't need people bcuz we haz robots."

Fun fact, just learned they are indeed going to try to replace scientists with robots too. There was a meeting about it yesterday:

For all we know they made the futuristic robot exoskeleton, took some fancy pictures of it holding a package, and that's all she wrote. The end result is just some rich assholes are slightly richer at the expense of the tax payer, and we should be grateful. 'Merica! 🇺🇲

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[-] [email protected] 133 points 4 days ago

Amazon announced using drones in 2014. In pop culture, drone delivery is like an assumed common practice. Yet fucking nobody gets their packages delivered by drone. It's been over a decade.

These robots are vaporware. Amazon will get a stock bump and that's the whole point.

[-] [email protected] 34 points 4 days ago

Yeah, humans regularly deliver stuff wrong on our street. There is no way robots will manage. I get packages for both by neighbours and they get mine more often than correct deliveries and one of my neighbours is a business.

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[-] [email protected] 102 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

Companies like Amazon would do anything. Except paying living wages

[-] [email protected] 11 points 4 days ago

Remember that hitch hiking robot that made it across Canada but only made it to New Jersey (started in NYC) in America? These will 100% get the same treatment everywhere on earth.

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[-] [email protected] 45 points 3 days ago

Anything to avoid one of the richest people in the world paying his employees a livable wage.

[-] [email protected] 7 points 2 days ago

Let's count the problems:

  1. Up front cost
  2. Maintenance cost
  3. Varied problems like different types of stairs, tripping hazards, etc.
  4. People attacking or stealing robots and their packages.
  5. Safety issues with 100+ pound metal robots falling on pets and children

Any others?

[-] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago

Rain? I know its not going to fall over and shoot out sparks like a cartoon but rain does mess with visibility and grip, plus this is a robot with a lot of joints and moving parts that's probably going to be maintained by someone who has to pee in a bottle so the cartoon falling over and shooting sparks isn't actually out of the question.

[-] [email protected] 14 points 3 days ago

everyone knows its just going to be indians in a data center in india controlling the bots.

[-] [email protected] 35 points 4 days ago

Bro that is so gonna get HitchBot'ed

a photo was tweeted, showing that the robot had been stripped "beyond repair" and decapitated in Philadelphia. The robot was located by some people following its progress on its website. The head was never found.

Also, like... if you wanna replace human workers, fine, just give us the UBI.

Otherwise, riots would be justified.

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[-] [email protected] 50 points 4 days ago

Wanna bet its 7000 Indian workers again?

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[-] [email protected] 12 points 3 days ago

So, from what little research I did the robots cost from 5000$ to 500000$, as most articles point out the advanced robots cost 200000-300000$. In a lot of places around the world that's like paying a human for 8-10 years. Humans are easily "replaceable", where those robots have maintenance cost additional to the initial "investment". How is that feasible in the eyes of the big money oligarchs? I genuinely don't understand the end goal here.

[-] [email protected] 14 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

I don't think they really plan to replace workers with robots. It fulfills two other purposes:

  • Keep the work force humble by threatening them with permanent replaceability.
  • Keep the stock holders happy. This shit simulates "innovation" like the delivery drones 10 years ago.
[-] [email protected] 4 points 3 days ago

if its actually feasible and it reduces cost, then it will be the plan. right now though, its bullshit. As soon as people start stealing and destroying these 5000-500000 dollar robots all of the potential profit goes out the window.

[-] [email protected] 5 points 3 days ago

I may lack imagination but I can't see a future where the materials and skills needed to build such robots get cheap enough to replace humans.
Especially if they get trashed and stolen every once in a while.

[-] [email protected] 4 points 3 days ago

Even if you make them in large quantities, material cost alone will be at least €50k. You will need a skilled operator nearby, and constant maintainance, and if you lose even one per year, a regular underpaid human worker will be much cheaper.

These things are pure marketing devices to pacify investors, generate headlines and make unions and workers afraid.

[-] [email protected] 5 points 3 days ago

The labor aspect of class politics is complicated.

But you don't have to understand any of it to think stealing these would be cool as fuck.

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[-] [email protected] 6 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

When the mask comes off, humans will revolt. Robots won't.

Or, that's the delusion.

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[-] [email protected] 19 points 3 days ago

I tend to disbelieve this, mainly because a humanoid robot would be overkill. Custom-purpose robots would be much cheaper to design, build and maintain, with fewer potential failure points.

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[-] [email protected] 33 points 4 days ago

I imagine they will scale back robot design and just throw from the truck.

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[-] [email protected] 6 points 3 days ago

Yo why tf can't they just fucking pay people a reasonable wage AND give them sane working conditions? This is insane. Capitalism does not favor anyone except the rich. It's time to tear down this wall of mediocrity and face the facts. No sense of government intervention will fix this. It must all be rewritten entirely.

[-] [email protected] 7 points 3 days ago

Because it's not real. It's purely for marketing, not for actual wide-spread implementation.

Even in the best of cases, even factoring in economy of scale and all that, a robot like that will cost upwards of €50k at least, probably closer to double that, will require constant maintainance, and the risk of vandalism or accidental damage is really high. And you'll likely need a (skilled) human operator nearby anyway, because the delivery vehicle doesn't drive itself.

The purpose of projects like this is marketing and public perception.

  • The company looks futuristic and future proof. That's good to get investors.
  • The company looks like they could replace humans with robots at any time. That's good with negotiations with unions and workers.
  • The company gets into headlines worldwide. That's advertisement they don't have to pay for.

This robot is not meant to ever go mainstream. Maybe there will be a handful of routes where they will be implemented for marketing purposes, but like drone delivery and similar gimmicks, it won't beat a criminally underpaid delivery human on price, and that's the only metric that counts for a company like Amazon.

[-] [email protected] 22 points 4 days ago

I can't wait to throw a Faraday blanket over one of these and jtag some open source firmware on it. What do you mean steal? I didn't steal anything, I just repurposed some garbage left on my front step!

[-] [email protected] 25 points 4 days ago

Amazon 1 year after launch: Unfortunately, the space needed for robots in the van means that the van has to return to base 5 times more often to reload with the actual packages and the extra weight of robots more than doubles the weight of the van being lugged around in the form of heavy robots. So that's why we are having to charge more for delivery and why it is taking longer for you to get your packages. But at least we can pay fewer salaries.

[-] [email protected] 15 points 4 days ago

Also we don’t pay taxes but will fuck up the roads with the extra weight. Good luck driving over potholes suckers!

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[-] [email protected] 20 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

The robot then encounters the entirely unpredictable American rural south

staircases half busted up surrounded by weeds and gravel roads full of holes

robots fucked with by kids who are now tying it to a tree with bungie cords for fun

one being dragged off in the background by a dude with a welding mask on

wageslave.exe has encountered an internal exception and must close

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[-] [email protected] 7 points 3 days ago

They will train it so well, it will even collapse like a human when overworked! https://youtu.be/6Kp5qrCExps . I recognized that bot from the photo.

[-] [email protected] 16 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

Amazon still can't even figure out how to reliably get human drivers door passcodes into an apartment building, and then into its mail/package locker room.

The map system it uses for telling drivers how to get around a city to make deliveries is also garbage, can't account for traffic, punishes people for using faster side routes to get to the same place, tells you to park in areas that either have no parking at all, or where parking there would majorly disrupt traffic, or assumes available street parking will always exist in places and times it almost never does.

I once did an Amazon delivery gig where they booked me in for the time slot, I get to the FC, after waiting an hour they tell half of us: 'oops we booked too many drivers, so today you all get $200 for showing up and doing nothing, go home now'

???

[-] [email protected] 13 points 4 days ago

Update: It is day 126 and Amazon still can't figure out where my camera is.

I know where it is. Their delivery driver stole it. (Yes, I just charged back my credit card. Their response was to send me an incredibly smarmy and condescending form email asking why, as if they don't already know. And they lost the chargeback dispute, obviously.)

So maybe their robots won't steal your package. They'll just yeet it into a bush 65536 yards from your house in a random direction instead. On the bright side, you might occasionally get a package that belongs to someone else from the other side of town dropped on your lawn.

To both this and that I say no thanks; I don't use Amazon anymore.

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[-] [email protected] 15 points 4 days ago

They'll be vandalised almost immediately.

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[-] [email protected] 3 points 2 days ago

It is the distant future,
The year 2000,

The last known survivor lives is a cave somewhere in the Madagascar desert. A robot travels by foot to deliver a package. A simple letter with the following URL:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xvFZjo5PgG0

The survivor dies. Amazon has finally won. They have all the money and everyone else is gone. All robots shut down. Besos jumps into the money pile only to learn that cartoons don't work in reality as most of his bones become powder on impact. The world is silent for a second. In the distance two flies are doing it over a pile of cow dung. The world becomes a peaceful place with no human presence whatsoever.

[-] [email protected] 14 points 4 days ago

Not in Philly they won't lol

[-] [email protected] 13 points 4 days ago

If i see a humanoid robot delivering a package i will throw bricks at it and then pee on it, in the way a 3 year old would during a tantrum.

[-] [email protected] 11 points 4 days ago

I, for one, will certainly not loot it for parts, unless it has an unfortunate accident, in which case I'm just recycling trash that someone left out.

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[-] [email protected] 19 points 4 days ago

I'd be terrified if that thing showed up at my door.

[-] [email protected] 25 points 4 days ago

Better keep a big furnace full of molten steel ready just in case.

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[-] [email protected] 14 points 4 days ago

Amazons “genius” packing bots will throw a tiny fragile thing with a medium size heavy thing in a box 16x too big along with a shred of packing material.

Can’t wait to have that same “genius” applied to the actual delivery itself.

Seriously, I make maybe 5 or 6 Amazon purchases per year. I would say at least 50% of those disappoint in some way: the item was misleadingly listed, or it was damaged in shipping, or it doesn’t arrive when the promised. I really don’t find it convenient at all.

[-] [email protected] 3 points 3 days ago

If I get one of those, I'm definitely killing it and stealing its copper. Amazon can pay for the repairs.

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[-] [email protected] 17 points 4 days ago

Be funny if hackers hacked them to kill CEOs.

[-] [email protected] 11 points 4 days ago

what? they gave up on the drones?

[-] [email protected] 17 points 4 days ago

I guess they felt like drones flying over civilian populations was a bit too unsettling in this day and age, so they are shifting to humanoids that will jump suddenly from moving vehicles and dash towards a destination.

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