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For me, it's a few things.

  1. A way to burn time that doesn't feel like a digital sugar rush.

  2. Support, camaraderie, and kindness, primarily from /r/stopdrinking.

  3. Niche stuff, like ideas for local hiking and backpacking trips, propaganda posters, and kayaking info.

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[–] [email protected] 28 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I love the communities for my hobbies. I hope they will be just as active as on reddit.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Same here! Crossing my fingers hard and commenting and posting way more than I did for years on Reddit.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

I have to say that I totally agree with the notion of looking for something that isn't. 'digital sugar rush'.

I enjoyed the deeper and harder discussions around politics, theology and philosophy. However, I only ever posted when I had something to add to the conversation as a lot of the subs I was in were modded by experts, and I'm at best an interested layperson.

I think for the moment at least, I need to brave commenting more. I guess we will have to so is we can attract the same experts to this platform, and get the same level of discussion.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago

Hobbies are really the thing. And a source for funny videos. I don't need the big subreddits for politics and news, much as I tend to get sucked into them, but I do really like having a wide range of subforums for my niche interests. It's much easier to find someone to talk to about a small tabletop RPG on a large aggregate site than it is to search for sufficiently active independent forums.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

This so much. And if you're thinking of starting a new hobby, there is a sub for it to help you get started. Not only do you have a group of veterans to ask your newb questions to, but lots of them have curated FAQs and starter guides to get you rolling. Reddit honestly improved my life in many ways for this reason.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I am looking for curation and durable content here.

For me, Reddit was a curated source of information. You have these communities full of knowledgeable people. If you went into that community you'd either find the info you need, already asked and answered, or you could ask and get a good answer. Discord is just real-time chat. It has virtually no search engine find-ability, no categorising, tagging, or reasonable way to go back and find something someone asked a year ago that was answered perfectly. Many of the social media are really personal and 'now' oriented. I'm eating a donut. This person pissed me off. I'm getting married, etc. Video streaming platforms have individual creators, who often have a theme, but they don't have communities or top-down categorisation. And video sucks as a searchable archive. It's really hard to know that 17 minutes into this video with a clickbait title, there's a really useful nugget of information. But Reddit (and now its federated clones) is user-curated and categorised. If I jump into a Windows-oriented community, I won't find a bunch of Linux stuff. If I want to look at a sport or a hobby or politics, there's a place to go. But it's not one creator/curator. It's organic.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

You just distilled and clarified into text exactly what I was feeling. Thank you.

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I'm looking for community engagement without the homogenised superculture. I'd like to be able to discuss books on a small book community without someone jumping in with "I also choose this guy's dead wife" or "not my proudest fap" because it's a low effort way of garnering meta-points. I also like the lack of an account-based point system.

So far Lemmy is delivering and so I'm engaging here a lot more actively than I ever did on Reddit.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Exactly, it wasn't like this before. But the past couple years in every post in every subreddit I keep colapsing the same top comments until I find a decent comment tree with meaningful conversation.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

There was also a huge problem with people posting the same comments over and over. After browsing for 10 years you could read the title and assume the top 5 comments.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Comments used to be the best part. So many different opinions, made me say "hmm haven't thought it that way" but now I just say why bother.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago

Recommendations and reviews about everything under the sun from actual users and not sponsored ad reviews.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

In the twilight years I mostly just used Reddit as an information aggregate.

I'm primarily wanting a place where I can read information for both niche and general topics, as well as read the dissent to that information in the same space.

Maybe I become more engaged in the community. But going from:

Private forums > old reddit > new reddit

Each step felt like I knew and was known by fewer people. All while knowing less about the people I did recognise. I spent a lot of time in "off topic" sections of the private forums, commented and generated a fair amount on old Reddit, and mostly lurked on new Reddit.

I think the whole situation has me cynical about the idea of "internet community", and maybe that's something I need to work on.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

I'm primarily wanting a place where I can read information for both niche and general topics, as well as read the dissent to that information in the same space.

Man, you nailed it, here. The thing I valued most about reddit as an information aggregate was the ability to go into the comments and expect that I could hear some different viewpoints, maybe get some additional information about the original article, etc.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago

Selfishly - A place to essentially have content delivered in an easy to find/use format 24/7.

Less Selfishly - A place to take part in discussions on shared interests & hobbies.

Unrealistically - A Reddit-like archive of posts to help in troubleshooting or recommending things. Pretty much impossible to replicate what Reddit has at the moment, and, if I understand how Lemmy works well enough atm, not something that's going to happen on Lemmy.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago

I just like a 'digital public square' aspect. I want to see what people are interested in today. I want to catch up on the latest news. Maybe I want to learn something new in a hobby community.

Reddit was okay at that at first, but it did start to feel 'gamed' over a decade ago now. People were starting to notice common reposters, 'super users', and its only devolved from there with sponsored posts, awards, and advertisements. That takes away from the public square aspect and instead makes it feel like you are consuming a product.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago

The smaller communities for specific interests (music genres, hobbies, etc).

Reviews and opinions. With Google results becoming worse by the hour, fake reviews flooding Amazon, paid reviews in almost every site/blog, when I'm about to purchase something I'm not 100% sure about I just search reddit to see what actual people are saying about it.

And last but not least - mostly sane discussions for news/articles with nested comments and a voting system. Lemmy already offers everything needed for that, what remains to be seen is how the community develops and grows.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago

Reddit was my biggest source of news. Not just because it was usually pretty up to date, but I greatly appreciated being able to check the comments as a bullshit detector. That and the article being in the comments instead of news sites' paywalls.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago

I primarily used Reddit to get involved in niche hobbies/interests and learn more about them. After seeing a lot of my favourite communities jumping ship, I thought I’d jump too!

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

The comments from knowledgeable individuals - frequently involved in the post itself. How often did I read of an astronomical paper, only to have one of the authors comment. Or read about some random fact about plumbing or medicine or whatever, and an academic or professional from the field would offer further insight

Not to mention the spectacular recommendations in various areas: whenever I'm in the market to buy literally anything, I'll search for the best of it on Reddit. The amount of high-quality information available on Reddit is not easily replaced. For that reason, I'll probably continue making such enquiries there, even if I do give up on Reddit in every other way

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

Recommendations and reviews about everything under the sun from actual users and not sponsored ad reviews.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

A lot of learning and reading. I spent most of my time on Reddit just lurking and reading things, but I can't help but notice the overall higher quality of conversation here. I'm pretty happy.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I'd say these three

  • Sharing memes and clip highlights with the streamer communities I care about
  • Learning new things from tech specific communities
  • Troubleshooting to figure out if there's a solution someone already derived or share my own for those who end up with the same problem

This is how I've used Reddit

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Creative posts and some "historical" lessons, like how being a hivemind isn't exactly too good of an idea for communities in Reddit...

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

I think unfortunately the hivemind happens no matter what. Put enough like minded people together on the internet and they'll make an echo chamber

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

No longer the case on current day reddit, but in the past in the news subreddits, when an article was clickbait one of the top comments would usually point out that it was click bait and why. And that made reddit for me a very useful source to get news from all over the world because it was easy to skip through the biased/clickbait articles.

Then also the specific gaming communities. Lemmy is far to small to have a community for every single game so that's a big loss for me.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This.

Plus the shitty humor. There was a time when the memes and shit-posts were actually fun (or at least somewhat creative.)

Then the Facebook and Instagram crowd moved in and reddit was reduced to 9gag re-posts and selfies with zero context.

I feel so old writing out those words...

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

That's probably how this will end up too if it takes off in the same way Reddit did though.

You either die a 9gag or you live long enough to become a 4chan

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

Quick responses to oddly specific questions in niche communities.

Users aggregating links on a specific topic like buildapcsales and gundeals from reddit.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

Niche communities are what made Reddit fun/useful to me. It was really nice to have discourse with a community that liked the same video game, movie, hobby, political ideals, etc, that you did.

Guides and tutorials were the other big thing. I utilized and contributed guides on Reddit regularly. It was really nice to engage with a community to solve an issue rather than use some AI generated or ad ridden article.

I hope to see Lemmy fill these gaps and it seems it has the potential to do so.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I mostly used it for extremely specific obscure tech issues that were solved 10 years ago in random threads πŸ™ƒ

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (8 children)

A massive search engine registered database containing years of knowledge from millions of people. Its going to be hard to replicate that.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I'm old enough to remember the earlier parts of the internet. I'm talking Prodigy and AOL keywords–the era of "You've Got Mail!" and 14.4k modem speeds. The era of if someone picked up the phone inside the house (the one that was tethered to the wall with a wire) you'd get disconnected and have to go through the logon process again.

At the time, just being able to access anything was a marvel. Then the internet exploded, and in just a couple of years modem speeds were 56k and it was wholly impossible to see it all. Then we saw the rise of one of the first iterations of a link aggregator in a browser tool called StumbleUpon.

I absolutely time-traveled with SU. One click and I was brought to the next quasi-random site that was generally within my predefined interests. This was about 2004-2009.

Then SU stumbled (I can't remember why) and I made my way to reddit. It had done a lot of what SU did, but condensed onto effectively one single page, and the community could vote on whether or not it was "good" and discuss nearly any aspect of the content.

It was that juncture I liked. It was part BBS, part StumbleUpon, and the entirety of the internet conveniently laid out. It didn't try to do too much. At the time, it didn't try to link us together, harvest our data, generate avatars or any of that other goofy shit. It just served all of the internet quickly, and simply.

My oldest reddit account is 11 years old and as reddit grew, I grew with it. I was there for the Chuck Testa memes. I was there for poop knife. I was there for the Coconut. I was there for /u/Hornswaggle rise to fame with 1985 Sweet 1985. That was big deal reddit news at the time.

And I was there for the rise and fall of Alien Blue, from whose ashes rose Apollo. I grew into a heavy mobile user that only third-party apps could keep up with.

I found reddit through the the fall of Digg because I was wandering from the demise of SU. Now it seems I'm cast into the Fediverse.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

Reddit and it's users are good at hyperfixating on a topic and building a community around said topic, with different skill levels. Therefore if you want to also participate, you can simply look up a subreddit for that topic and nearly instantly get answers to your questions and tips on how to start.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Advice on choosing between two things that are only marginally different.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I liked the positivity of the community for the most part. Reddit, to my mind, was the only largely non toxic form of social media and that will be hard to replace though I’m liking Lemmy so far.

I always liked getting into micro communities and hearing how they talked about their worlds. That might include life in obscure (relative to me) places around the world, getting into the weeds of various occupations I’ll never work in or learning about the fine details of hobbies I’ll never have. Real people having good faith conversations about highly specific things relevant to them.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

I liked the positivity of the community for the most part. Reddit, to my mind, was the only largely non toxic form of social media and that will be hard to replace though I’m liking Lemmy so far.

I think the voting system plays a huge role in that. On other social media platforms engagement always pushes the content, no matter if the engagement is positive or negative.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (6 children)

I'm not sure how all this federated stuff works. I just want to browse absolute rubbish and hope I learn something in the meantime.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

I'm looking forward to Lemmy becoming a useful DIY or reference tool. I always used to finish Google searches with 'reddit' because someone somewhere will have asked that specific question already.

On top of that I'm going to miss those really supportive subreddits like r/dadforaminute and r/momforaminute. Though, it does seem like a lot of the people who made up subs like that have migrated here, so I'm hopeful!

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

Access to some really great knowledge combined with a friendly community .. I think of subreddits like Picopresso and Selfhosting among many others

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

"A way to burn time that doesn't feel like a digital sugar rush" - well said, that was definitely one of the main reasons I used it habitually. In my experience, reddit had a fairly unique balance of being able to facilitate both serious and silly content.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago
  1. Same point on burning time
  2. Specific in-depth discussion on hobbies and interests
  3. Humor (the kind I like)
[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Definitely want to continue the game threads for NBA/NFL games. It's really fun to have a small community of people you can shit talk with especially when they aren't around in person

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

I just found the NBA community today, and it seems like that whole realm is getting started up:

https://lemmy.world/c/nba

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

Cats and news

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

For me, reddit killed hobby forums. I'm hoping lemmy can take it's place. I'm partular I'm looking for computer networking and infrastucture, and Judo/BJJ

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

In general, responses and knowledge from actual humans with experience on the topic I'm looking for, in this age of generated SEO results and AI, that information is more valuable to me.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Definitely number 3. I completely agree that Reddit was great for the niche stuff.

I mean, if not for Reddit, I wouldn't have organised multiple hiking and backpacking trips, sticking up propaganda posters about kayaking.

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