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[-] [email protected] 177 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Calling China communist is a stretch. More like planned authoritarian capitalism tempered with socialism. China has 607 billionaires, communism would have 0.

[-] [email protected] 75 points 1 week ago

Also, Japan is very capitalistic and they have amazing trains.

[-] [email protected] 37 points 1 week ago

look I don't care who's communist and who's capitalist, we need them trains

[-] [email protected] 37 points 1 week ago

It's not a stretch, it's outright false to call it communism or socialism, systems which necessitate the abolishment of capitalist mode of production (commodity production, private ownership, markets) and money. China, meanwhile, literally has billionaires, still produces things under capitalist mode of production and the only oddity it has compared to other Capitalist countries is partially nationalized economy (which Mussolini has also done, it's not socialism by itself).

It's just a social democracy.

[-] [email protected] 13 points 1 week ago

democracy is a far stretch though, isnt it? And capitalist is also not entirely true, when entire industry branches are nationalized, planned and not privatized

[-] [email protected] 12 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Isn’t there only one political party in China? How is that democracy? Not being hostile, genuinely curious how that would work

[-] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago

You can have disagreements within a single party. Like how in the US they banned communist parties because it didn't align with the capitalist ideals that all American parties are required to align with.

[-] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago

The US has not banned communist parties from existing. There's even a few local elected communist mayors. The Red Scare for sure did it's job though, and declaring as a communist in virtually any US office is a surefire way to lose.

[-] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago
[-] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago

Which was ruled unconstitutional in 1973 by the federal district court of Arizona. Did you finish the article that you linked?

Blawis v. Bolin

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[-] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago

I think people have some degree of chouce at the more local levels, but you're right.

[-] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Wikipedia lists 9 parties in the NPC

[-] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago
[-] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago

You should also learn that those parties are subsidiaries of CCP, the governing party. They are not actual alternatives.

[-] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago

And all of those parties are listed as being under the control of CCP. So it is a one party state.

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[-] [email protected] 15 points 1 week ago

Lets call it state capitalist, as thats the proper term

[-] [email protected] 5 points 1 week ago

It's not even that, given how there's a decent chunk of their economy owned by private individuals

[-] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago

As I understand it, the majority shareholder is the cccp in those little capitalist bubbles?

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[-] [email protected] 4 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

I answered over here, China is a Socialist economy trying to build up to Communism. Billionaires wouldn't really exist in Communism, but China hasn't managed to abolish the commodity form in general yet, it takes time and most importantly development of the productive forces.

[-] [email protected] 4 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

The term state capitalism cover a lot of the basics of the Chinese system.

[-] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago

Thank you. Was looking for a better term.

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[-] [email protected] 93 points 1 week ago

China is as communist as I am a french male model. That said, it is indeed a mistake to allow the "free market" to determine the nation's critical infrastructure. American rail is an absolute joke.

[-] [email protected] 43 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

muricans calling everything communism that isn't gop cock sucking is getting old

[-] [email protected] 6 points 1 week ago

Whos trains are those ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ the world may never know

[-] [email protected] 5 points 1 week ago

Are they belong to a stateless moneyless society? It would be very embarrassing for you if they aren't.

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[-] [email protected] 29 points 1 week ago

yeah we almost got a high speed rail system but some dipshit from south africa decided to build a shitty tunnel instead

[-] [email protected] 20 points 1 week ago

Close. Put the capitalist train on its side, spilling hazardous waste into a community water source.

[-] [email protected] 15 points 1 week ago

Communism is when trains run on time

[-] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago

’Communism is when communal efforts produce results.’

Accidentally correct, you dolt.

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[-] [email protected] 13 points 1 week ago

Capitalism (good) Vs Capitalism (bad)

FTFY

[-] [email protected] 22 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Capitalism with literal slave labor vs capitalism that outsources the literal slave labor or calls them prisoners with jobs

[-] [email protected] 5 points 1 week ago

and I wouldn't want to live in neither the US nor China

[-] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago

Capitalism with literal slave labor

You're talking about the US prison population, right?

[-] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago

prisoners with jobs

[-] [email protected] 4 points 1 week ago

Capitalism (with speedy trains) vs capitalism (with slow trains)

FTFY

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