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I'm posting this here not for the topic of Veganism, but how this presenter critiques Carnivore as a right wing sensation.

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‘Wellness’ is destroying veganism. Here’s why.

In this video, Earthling Ed critiques the rise of extreme wellness trends that contradict vegan principles, focusing on how certain wellness influencers have shifted from plant-based to animal-centric diets, promoting harmful and unscientific practices. He argues that this trend undermines the credibility of veganism and criticizes the superficiality of the wellness industry, emphasizing the impact on animal rights and the science of nutrition.

Key Points

Extreme diets and mislabeling of veganism

Many people who claim to have been vegan often practiced extreme diets such as fruitarianism or raw detox diets, which are not representative of a balanced, healthy vegan lifestyle. These misrepresentations lead to misconceptions about veganism, with some declaring their health was harmed by veganism when it was actually due to unhealthy practices.

Wellness as a contrarian movement

The concept of wellness often revolves around rejecting mainstream health guidelines and institutions, creating a culture that embraces unscientific practices under the guise of individuality and specialness. This quest for uniqueness can lead individuals down harmful paths that contradict genuine well-being.

The wellness to animal abuse pipeline

As some influencers move away from plant-based diets to promote carnivorous practices, there’s a trend of glorifying animal exploitation in wellness narratives. This shift emphasizes harmful eating habits that perpetuate suffering for animals, all while masking it under wellness terminology.

Cognitive dissonance in wellness culture

There exists a significant cognitive dissonance within the wellness community, where individuals simultaneously reject evidence-based practices while endorsing dangerous pseudoscientific claims. This leads to acceptance of harmful dietary practices under the pretense of personal authenticity and wellness.

Influencers and harmful narratives

Social media influencers peddle anecdotal evidence and unscientific claims that can mislead their audiences. The attractiveness of personal stories often overshadows scientific evidence, creating a culture where unsupported health claims gain traction.

Critique of celebrity wellness brands

Brands like Gwyneth Paltrow's Goop promote pseudoscientific products while lacking transparency or evidence for their health claims. This commercialization of health ideas exploits societal anxieties and reinforces problematic eating habits.

Impact on the animal rights movement

The rise of contradictory wellness practices threatens the ethical basis of veganism by promoting the idea that wellness can come from products involving animal suffering. This undermines the animal rights advocacy that many vegans stand for.

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[-] [email protected] 1 points 6 days ago

Wow that video is talking directly to me.

I was drinking Soylent for about 2 years. Almost exclusively. So that's a type of veganism, but supposedly engineered to hit all of the daily requirements.

Now I'm carnivore. Straight out of that guy script. It's amazing

I can absolutely say that doctor's in the carnivore and keto space, absolutely want to see structural change in the guidelines, in the medical community, in the practicing procedures

Earthling Ed references "thousands of high quality studies" to dismiss the benefits of keto and carnivore, thats just lazy.

The core problem with Ed's thesis is it relies on his assumptions to be unquestioned and correct, and being incredulous of anything outside of Ed's views. Painting everything as Cognitive dissonance and the right wing radicalization pipeline, its hardly a objective analysis of data and outcomes of different protocols. Thus Ed is dismissing carnivores as Right Wing conspiracy nuts and conveniently doesn't need to look at their data and outcomes.

At 20:40 he says "Anecdotes are the weakest form of evidence that exists" Yet the "thousands of high quality studies" he alludes to earlier, are very weakly powered, low associative hazard ratio, epidemiological studies which are only qualified to be hypothesis generating, and not "high quality" science. If we are being generous we would call such studies very weak evidence.

I do agree Paul Saladino is a clown, never practiced medicine in his life, doesn't do research. He is more a influencer then a medical practitioner.

Ed does fall for the "no true scottsman" logical fallacy dismissing people's vegan experiences.

28:16 Right Wing, Wellness, Carnivore world view

I really dislike his politicizing dietary protocols, that is just dirty pool. Plus his ending video hook that the right wing wellness carnivore people only want to sell you stuff.... is very much incorrect. A keto/carnivore protocol doesn't require buying anything from anyone, there is no supplement needed... everything can/should be purchased locally from the grocery store/butcher. No subscriptions or influencer peddling is necessary.

I will note, ironically, with that closing statement about sales based influencers, here are the products being sold in the description of Ed's video

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[-] [email protected] 2 points 6 days ago

He's right, Veganism has nothing to do with wellness so you can see how caring about your health might lead you away from it.

No subscriptions or influencer peddling is necessary.

There's a reason the only carnivore personality he shows is Saladino.

[-] [email protected] 2 points 6 days ago

I love soylent. why did you stop?

[-] [email protected] 1 points 6 days ago

COVID and I moved, but it wasn't improving my health . It removed all the choices from my diet which was good. But my major metrics - blood pressure, and weight, didn't improve over that time

[-] [email protected] 2 points 6 days ago

I'm very active and I love the convenience and assurance I'm getting essential nutrients

[-] [email protected] 1 points 6 days ago

It is very convenient, and the chocolate flavor is pretty good. I'm glad it's fitting into your lifestyle.

Knowing what I know now about metabolism and bioavailable nutrition I don't think I could pick up Soylent again.

[-] [email protected] 2 points 5 days ago

I prefer the original flavor... what do you mean about metabolism and bioavailability?

[-] [email protected] 1 points 5 days ago

I was using the old school original powder packs that you had to add oil to for awhile. Then when they came out with the premixed drinks i switched over, much more convenient.

Since the pandemic I've learned about the ketogenic metabolism and the health benefits that confers. I've lost 45kg, and brought my high blood pressure back to normal ranges by doing a zero carbohydrate diet. I feel like a totally different person then before.

Protein bioavailability is a function of how complete the amino acids are in a protein source, so that humans can actually utilize the protein. There is a great measure of this DIAAS, but the TLDR is the most available source of protein is animal protein.

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