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[-] [email protected] 37 points 3 days ago

The best argument that Doge is a scam is that they didn't start with the Pentagon. All federal agencies are audited every year, they even each have an office of non partisan experts that compile this yearly and continually look for fraud and waste. The Pentagon was ordered to complete and audit by Congress, and given several years to do. They failed for more than 10 years to provide ANY numbers (aside from the Marines that made stuff up). When they finally completed their audit in 2018, they failed to justify the numbers for 7 years in a row. They currently can't tell where more than 50% of their funding is spent. That will now be half a trillion dollars. The first thing Trump did was fire all the expert people that audit federal agencies, and then exempt the Pentagon. One agency, that consumes nearly half of the federal annual discretionary budget, can't tell us where they spend more than half their money. This is what most people call a scam.

[-] [email protected] -5 points 3 days ago

I especially like how you nonsensically meandered from calling Doge a scam, to calling the entire DoD a scam, without any clear transition from your initial argument to what you ultimately argued at the end.

And thus, this is all proof Doge is a scam…

I mean, it is a scam. And it appears meant to break the Government- because rich people are stupid enough to think they can continue to function in a broken society.. but your argument doesn’t exactly help to depict that. Or that a rational opposition exists.

[-] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago

I admit I didn't bring it all together, I got tired halfway through. I do not mean to say that the DOD is a scam. They spent their money, and may be wasting it, but they themselves can't tell you where. Doge should have started with the Pentagon. The one agency, out of all of them, that can't even be audited, is left alone, and given more money every year. As far as I have seen with doge, the only thing they have been cutting is stuff they don't like. That is not how any of this works. Congress is responsible for determining where the money goes and what each agency does. The executive branch is tasked to follow that.

[-] [email protected] 0 points 3 days ago

How do you audit them without revealing national security secrets?

I could understand why foreign actors would try to manufacture consent to force the pentagon to reveal what they’re using their budget on.

[-] [email protected] 7 points 2 days ago

The audit is for Congress. Black budgets are included and redacted. Certain members have security clearance and can see these items. The important part is that when they allocated money to an agency, it is spent as intended. The Department of Energy is audited every year, and passes. It is responsible for our nukes. The particulars are not known to the general public. The Sec. Of Energy is responsible for this and reports it to Congress every year.

[-] [email protected] 8 points 3 days ago

They could easily redact anything that's a national secret. Musks goal wasn't to lower waste or the budget anyways, so it's kinda a moot point.

[-] [email protected] 8 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Because the military was buying his products and wasn't standing in his way of making profits with pesky things like safety standards, and "not poisoning the environment"

[-] [email protected] 15 points 3 days ago

Easy, because it was NEVER about actual government efficiency, it was about gutting major chunks of the Federal government, especially ones that might hold him accountable.

[-] [email protected] 6 points 2 days ago

Because he wasn't under investigation by the military?

[-] [email protected] 5 points 3 days ago

The unproductive nature of "defense".

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