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[-] [email protected] 167 points 1 month ago

You should be using Signal anyway.

[-] [email protected] 38 points 1 month ago

I think Telegram is more of a social media than a messenger.

[-] [email protected] 13 points 1 month ago

What, like Instagram kind of thing?

[-] [email protected] 22 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Not really. It just group chats and some are used as news feeds.

Its one of those terrible UX where people force a tool to do something it's not supposed to like Discord for forums etc.

Its basically used for piracy and drug markets for tech illiterate but somehow caught on.

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[-] [email protected] 100 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Telegram are being paid by xAI to use their product? Isn't it supposed to be the other way around?

[-] [email protected] 63 points 1 month ago

I'm guessing the money flows in this direction because telegram actually has users.

[-] [email protected] 13 points 1 month ago

The users must ask themselves if they're the product, fucking Musk is paying for access to them.

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[-] [email protected] 26 points 1 month ago

Having xAI accessing a billion of users conversations? They are going to have the most "educated" LLM. Also isn't xAI getting subsidies from the government? Literalły workers of America are paying to spy, again

[-] [email protected] 9 points 1 month ago

The funny thing is, half of Telegram is drugs, conspiracy nuts and really weird humour. The ai is going to be great, I can already see it.

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[-] [email protected] 66 points 1 month ago

good news! signal has sticker packs

[-] [email protected] 19 points 1 month ago

If only any of my friends would have it.. I have a lot of contacts on telegram, and on signal there's like 1. Even my furry friends are not on there

There are some active chats on matrix, but I don't know why on signal

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[-] [email protected] 14 points 1 month ago

I tried to switch to Signal but it feels so damn barren compared to Telegram :(

I want to love it but they make it hard

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[-] [email protected] 66 points 1 month ago

So you’re telling me that Grok is so bad that they have to pay developers to integrate it? How backwards. People are willing to pay for Grok’s competitors.

[-] [email protected] 12 points 1 month ago

Or is xAI paying for access to Telegram conversations to train Grok?

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[-] [email protected] 63 points 1 month ago

Telegram ASTOUNDS me.

Like, there's been several instances of them outwardly admitting that their security sucks, not to use it for encrypted chats, that they just give logs away to world governments, and yet thousands of crypto bros and bots use telegram to function, EVEN ZLIBRARY, who could just as easily set up and use Matrix, has a Telegram bot for downloading books.

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[-] [email protected] 52 points 1 month ago

There goes my telegram account. Bye, you won’t be missed

[-] [email protected] 23 points 1 month ago

I don't know why people stuck with it. I've used it; I get that a lot of the initial success/hype was:

  • It's not owned by Meta
  • "Putin hates Durov!"
  • "Unlimited" storage (lots of people using it as free cloud storage, which is dumb if you value your files)

But your messages are not E2EE by default (only "Secret Chats", which aren't synced across devices)...Telegram (the organization) could always read your messages. I said this so many times and got called everything under the sun.

"Why would they care about my messages though?" ------> Because $300 Million.

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[-] [email protected] 47 points 1 month ago

So, a software that is owned by US politician is working together with software that has links to Russian government?

[-] [email protected] 25 points 1 month ago

Federal government threatened Telegram and demanded a backdoor a while back, iirc.

[-] [email protected] 16 points 1 month ago

You misunderstand. Elon is retired from US politics now, obviously, and will return to being a force of good!

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[-] [email protected] 42 points 1 month ago

There doesn’t seem to be any such thing as “good” AI, but there’s definitely a “worst” one, and Telegram chose it. Nice job, assholes.

[-] [email protected] 18 points 1 month ago

Well the other ones you have to pay for. This one pays you!

[-] [email protected] 36 points 1 month ago

great advertisement for signal

[-] [email protected] 28 points 1 month ago

Wondering how long has this been cooking? A year or so ago musk started attacking signal for no discernible reason and recommending telegram instead.

[-] [email protected] 26 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Two insane billionaire eugenicists … working together? No way. Birds of like feather stick together.

[-] [email protected] 23 points 1 month ago

now telegram is going to insert random information about South African White genocide to every conversation. or it will be in every recommended reply at least.

[-] [email protected] 21 points 1 month ago

If anybody still believed in Telegram's trustworthiness, it should now be dispelled.

(Only kidding, there's plenty of people who still "believe" in both Durov and Musk)

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[-] [email protected] 21 points 1 month ago

Gross. So glad I deleted it and moved to Signal

[-] [email protected] 12 points 1 month ago
  • Matrix (Element etc...)
  • XMPP
  • Session
  • SimpleX
  • Signal
  • GNU-Jami
  • Briar
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[-] [email protected] 20 points 1 month ago

ew wtf, Telegram has been one of the less shittified ones :c

[-] [email protected] 26 points 1 month ago

Honestly, Telegramm always seemed to me a bit shifty since I learnt E2EE for chats was opt-in.

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[-] [email protected] 18 points 1 month ago

Nail no.1 in the coffin for me was when this Durov guy sent an unsolicited telegram-wide message on election day in my country, claiming French interference in our elections.

This is nail no.2 in the coffin.

Guess I’ll get off my lazy arse and delete my telegram account now

[-] [email protected] 17 points 1 month ago

I’m so glad I don’t use telegram.

[-] [email protected] 17 points 1 month ago

First thing i'm doing is opening a channel to run up Grok API calls maliciously

[-] [email protected] 14 points 1 month ago

"Eat moar AI! EAT IT!! EAT the AI you peasants!"

[-] [email protected] 14 points 1 month ago

Im glad the EU started early with sanctioning Telegram, it will make things easier now. This is just a blatant attempt at enforcing Russian political influence.

[-] [email protected] 14 points 1 month ago

What is the fediverse chat equivalent?

[-] [email protected] 12 points 1 month ago

If you want something more like the fediverse itself, then Matrix. If you want something closer to Telegram out of the box without setup, then Signal or SimpleX.

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[-] [email protected] 14 points 1 month ago

Can this be a joke pleaseeeee ?

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[-] [email protected] 14 points 1 month ago

How many people pressed the play button in the image. I know I did.

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[-] [email protected] 12 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

I wonder if grok will read even secret chats on telegram

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[-] [email protected] 10 points 1 month ago

I only use telegram to buy illegal iptv subscriptions. Is there a reason I would ever need grok in there?

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