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submitted 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

I have an older Sony TV which has (what I can only guess to be) Google's Android TV app installed on it. I'm sick of getting new recommendations from Amazon and Disney+ and all those services. Is there a way to strip it down bare bones and get everything I need from another app repo - kinda like with Graphene vs Android?

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[-] [email protected] 40 points 2 days ago

Skipping the smart in TV and connecting my own box on a HDMI was a godsend. My current TV has never had network connectivity.

[-] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago

What kind of box are you using?

[-] [email protected] 13 points 2 days ago

I use one of those beelink / minisforum boxes with kodi installed. Never seen an ad in forever.

[-] [email protected] 17 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Just a heads up about this approach, non approved boxes are limited by stream providers such as Netflix to 1080p HD:

https://androidpcreview.com/netflix-hd-android-tv-box/

So if you have a 4K TV and a 4K Netflix plan but plan to use a "custom" box your service will be limited to 1080p HD. Not entire bad but can be a frustration point if you get all built and realize it later.

[-] [email protected] 9 points 2 days ago
[-] [email protected] 5 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Do you have a Netflix plugin 4K setup working?

I ask because even in the plugin page there are a few indications contradictory that indicates otherwise:

First is the warning in the main page: "DUE TO CHANGES TO THE WEBSITE THAT PREVENT THE PROPER PLAYBACK OF VIDEOS, THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE ADD-ON HAS BEEN SUSPENDED. THE VIDEO PLAYBACK, WHEN IT WORKS, IS LIMITED TO SD QUALITY AND ONLY ON SOME LINUX/ANDROID DEVICES."

Second in the section "Reference table of high resolution" there is a footnote saying the following: "*4 Hardware decoding and 4k are supported only to devices with Netflix certification, Widevine Security Level L1 and HDCP 2.2 hardware."

Third in the list of 1080P 4k Android tested devices we see basically only Netflix approved devices: https://github.com/CastagnaIT/plugin.video.netflix/wiki/List-of-1080P-4k-Android-tested-devices

[-] [email protected] 3 points 2 days ago

I've stopped using netflix so I can't verify and am speaking exclusively based on the documentation

[-] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago

do you have to set it up yourself or does it come pre-configured? i ask cause i just got out of setting up my own server and as a non-tech native, it was EXHAUSTING (rewarding, yes - but time intensive).

[-] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago

You can setup Kodi using libreelec but setting up YouTube and Netflix and all is a bit of work, not as much as setting up a server but it's definitely not plug and play entirely. Once it's set up tho it just works.

[-] [email protected] 3 points 2 days ago

okay, thanks for this - gonna have to do some research

[-] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago

It would be DIY

[-] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago

Pretty much the same for me except I use a pc to run the tv, with a wireless keyboard and mouse.

[-] [email protected] 8 points 1 day ago

It's impossible to de-google or meaningfully remove unwanted stuff from Smart TVs while keeping them usable for streaming purposes.

What you want to do is factory reset, don't connect to the internet, go into settings and turn off whatever you can, and then use a streaming box.

Yes it's an additional cost but it's BETTER. The processors and memory in those TVs are lousy, the apps are often sluggish, the experience is simply not great. Frankly the hardware was built not to be usable for you, they are data collection platforms that include minimal low quality streaming experiences in order to collect data. No software is going to fix that.

Want something that "just works" and supports all the major streamers? Get an Apple TV 4k. It's pretty private but importantly no ads, clean interface, powerful hardware. Is it maximally private? No. But it is easy.

Want to put in effort? You can get either a Dune-HD box (some have dual-OS without reboot where one is Netflix certified to get you full resolution while passing DRM checks while another is unlocked bootloader which you can install all kinds of things like Plex and Kodi on) or get some other Android streaming device of your choice (Walmart's Onn brand 4k devices used to be very good and cheap though you might need to check as I heard rumors the latest devices can't be unlocked).

You'll have a better experience on more powerful hardware and will never want to go back to the bad on-board TV experience.

[-] [email protected] 9 points 2 days ago

Factory reset it and don't connect it to the network.

If you want to stream, use a Chromecast. I've been using the same one for like ten years now, never an issue. Pick the media on my phone, hit cast, done.

[-] [email protected] 12 points 2 days ago

I wonder which company makes these Chromecasts 🙃

[-] [email protected] 5 points 2 days ago

Google, but it sounds like OP's issue is the junk, not any actual association with Google.

[-] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago
[-] [email protected] -2 points 2 days ago

Buy a used one

[-] [email protected] 6 points 2 days ago

Disconnect it from the network, and maybe do a factory reset. Set up some sort of set-top box (a raspberry pi or similar works great, or any old PC).

[-] [email protected] 10 points 2 days ago

If you buy "digital signage" or "commercial display" monitors, they won't have built-in ad-tracking; some models have a recent version of Android built-in that makes it easy to load Jellyfin, Kodi, and other such apps; and they'll be built to commercial specifications, meaning they'll last longer. They can also have better screencasting features.

On the downside: they are more expensive, you'll need to check their specs for things like bluetooth, wifi, HDMI, and other things you need; the built-in speakers are not good. The TV of course doesn't stop any particular app from serving you ads on its own, unless you load in another app to block them.

I have a setup like this, connected to a seedbox with transcoding, and it works great.

[-] [email protected] 8 points 2 days ago

I do not know but what I'm doing on my "smart" video projector is :

then I basically "ignore" their custom launcher and go straight to my local content instead.

[-] [email protected] 5 points 2 days ago

Pretend it is just a boring TV and use an OSMC box or some other HTPC solution.

There is very little you can do to the default OS other than not give it access to the Internet.

[-] [email protected] 9 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Basically, the only way is to disconnect the TV and use it as a dumb screen. Lineageos supports a few set top boxes (see here).

I heard (take it as hearsay) that some smart TV periodically capture screenshots of what's on screen and upload it, so it actually disconnecting the tv from the network could (again, hearsay) make a real difference.

[-] [email protected] 7 points 2 days ago

I dont think any smart TV's even allow you to unlock the bootloader, even if you did somehow find a way to unlock it there arent any custom roms for smart tvs. Apparently some smart tvs have unofficial bootloader unlocks through exploits but unless you want to fiddle with a GSI its useless.

[-] [email protected] 3 points 2 days ago

samygo is a custom rom for smart tvs.

[-] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago

Afaik they dont do completely custom firmware but just mods

[-] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago

Another option is using an alternate launcher. I've used Flauncher and ProjectIvy to bypass Google's default launcher.

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.spocky.projengmenu&hl=en-US

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=me.efesser.flauncher&hl=en-US

APKs are available wherever you'd like to source them. F-droid should technically work on Android TV, as well. Android TV OS is a different OS from original Android, so I've never seen an alternative like Graphene.

[-] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago

Projectivy app and you can set tv to launch to that and disable the google launcher

[-] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Don’t connect it to the internet at all. Use a computer/appletv/roku whatever. A computer with your favorite Linux distribution to use just as a video player might be ok, I don’t know if you can get all the Dolby/HD stuff setup though unless you use a “commercial” solution. I use a w10 machine for the hd video sparkles.

[-] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago

Sorry doesn't really answer the question, but is it feasible to buy a large computer monitor and use that rather than a TV if you're going to use a set top box or old PC anyway?

We have them at work in the meeting rooms. Unsure of price however?

[-] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago

I was in the same boat. If on android you can install a third party launcher. It gets rid of everything you are talking about.

https://www.reddit.com/r/AndroidTV/comments/1d3ub1m/recommendations_to_replace_tv_home_launcher_in/

[-] [email protected] 3 points 2 days ago

this appear to however only be a frontend ui and doesn't change anything on the data collection / OS right? still - looks very cool, will definitely check it out.

[-] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

I installed projectivy on my android tv and it's great. Just a simple dashboard that only shows the things I put there.

[-] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago

I used to be annoyed by an old Samsung "smart" TV ('15 or '16 model). Most things didn't work on it, yet it kept demanding my data and playing ads constantly. So I built my first pi-hole, it stopped most of the ads but broke the TV in the process. Long story short, I went down every rabbit hole I could and no solutions were found. Granted, different brand and era so maybe you'll have better luck...but the solution for me was simply to ditch the apps altogether

[-] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago

I had a hisense TV and I once blocked all of the VIDAA domains in DNS and did a factory reset. The UI didn't pull in all the crap that it puts on the homescreen.

I should probably try it long-term and see if it's usable for everything else.

[-] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

there are some custom roms for smart tvs, notably samygo. you CAN root some of them.

id rather disconnect it from the internet and get a minipc or a TRUSTWORTHY android box to act as the smart part of it though.

[-] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago

Last I checked there is some work being done but it is not prosumer ready.

Hopefully it will get there soon since console are now going down enshitification route... Endless fucking corporate slop being spammed on every section of the screen 🙄

this post was submitted on 28 May 2025
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