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I guess Lemmy will be getting bigger then
Significantly xD
I hope news outlets cover Lemmy and Kbin so the masses get exposed to it. So far, most of us are "power users".
Power users is how any and all social media started. The power users make something cool, which gains momentum and draws in others.
Corporate social media has shown across the board that they are user-hostile, hence exoduses from Facebook and Twitter. (And would have happened to YouTube too if their was a viable place to go to - but I guess video hosting is a more costly challenge.)
They really should have just found out what the 3rd party apps -COULD PAY-. If it covered the cost of their usage and there was some profit on the top, it would at least bring in some money. Based on what I read by the Apollo dev, there was back and forth communication about pricing for a while until he broke the news.
It astounds me that they chose to cut them off entirely by offering impossible pricing. Isn't some money better than no money?
I never expected them to change their mind, they know what they want and they know what sort of people they want on their platform and frankly it is not us.
Plenty of people including me are very glad about being pushed in a more fedi direction, and genuinely enjoy it here. Probably most of those people are older like me and feel very much at home with a bit of jank, with Mastodon's topic-based following system, etc etc. Because that's what the internet was like when we were first exploring it. We will 100% stick around.
For younger or less techy people though, the only thing that really gets them to use services is how easy it is. And that's fine too. We can have our own corner of the internet here to be dorks in, and they can have their own corner over there, and we can all still be friends just...you know...from a distance.
As an βolderβ person, not afraid of the jank, I LOVE this view and subscribe to it whole heartedly!
Well of course not. their mistake is that they're trying to make profit on something that's not profitable. Musk made the same mistake. Unfortunately the general mass can't comprehend the complexity (!) of multiple instances of a same platform because no one uses emails so I don't actually believe Lemmy or Kbin will become mainstream. People will slowly trickle back to Reddit once they realize they have no alternatives.
somebody else pointed this out, but it's honestly bizarre he's going in on the "we aren't making any money" ploy in preparation for the ipo
what's the pitch to the investors? "please by shares in this unprofitable company, in the hope that we can become profitable by pissing off our userbase"?
In Reddit's defense (I'm team Apollo, for the record), it is a legitimate concern to become profitable. But drastic changes that infuriate the community with little time to adapt is very questionable. It's weird to me that Reddit just blindsided Christian like that after he's had many years of good collaboration with them and always showed good faith. I feel like there would have been a lot of more beneficial alternatives. From how they responded to the community outcry it's clear that they want to ban third-party apps without downright saying it.
no wonder since most of the subs are only going offline for 2 days
I couldn't be the only one who found 2 days to be a ridiculously low time as well.
Man, this is so dumb; unfortunately, if they open up all the subs, people are just gonna rush back because there's no reason to try to make anything else work.
It's going to be an uphill battle and maybe even a siege. It's going to mean these sub-reddits are going to have to be dark for the foreseeable future if they want to make it painful for Spez and team.
I have officially migrated here from reddit, after nearly 15 years over there. This is my 1st comment and the 1st post I've viewed.
For me, it's irrelevant whether or not my decision makes a discernable impact; I simply won't support them with my traffic and won't settle for the default app. No 3rd party apps simply equates to no reddit for me.
And even if they walked back their decision regarding their API, I still wouldn't return unless there was a change in management.
I don't think reddit will walk back their decision, and I don't think they'll be going anywhere either. But I think this is a tipping point in reddit's quality as a site/community. Analogously to russia's brain drain, I believe we will see that the core of the redditors who are leaving are made up of redditors who promote a healthy functioning site/communities.
I was a very core member of several subreddits and did some moderation, but also contributed to reporting content, etc. that most users neglect, but are integral to limiting spam, trolls, and hate. It's not the users shitposting on r/funny or r/gaming that are going to leave. It's the long-time users who have been propping up this paper tiger.
If enough mods and healthy community members leave, reddit is going to devolve into a cesspool. Reddit will be hard off if they lose the free labor of mods that have propped up their site for years.
Trying this out for the first time, Its honestly really similar. No Apollo app means no reddit for me, unfortunately. If Lemmy can make a good mobile app and the community grows a bit I could see being a semi-daily user here.
I've liked my experience on Jerboa for Lemmy. It looks great and feels streamlined in list view with the font size I've chosen. That's android, but there's also an ios app for lemmy.
Yep, lol
Honestly fuck that guy. I'm glad that I don't need to continue supporting this person.