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Mod at [email protected] removes comment, probably based on a political bias. (lemmy.world)

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I commented the following on this post problem is not Netanyahu, it is not Ben Gvir. it is the white supremacist mindset of Israeli public.

This is not new, extremists gain power, they are then making everything they can to stay in power while they slowly turn anyone they can to their side. They use the education system, political systems, laws and the media. Considering that Netanyahu has been in power since 2009 he has literally shaped the political and moral ideology of a significant part of the population. Imagine being 10 yo at 2009, by the time you van vote all you ever knew was Netanyahu. At the end of the day, an adult that is calling for genocide is responsible for their opinions and actions, but this is how a situation where a majority of a country if genocidal happens, with slow, steady and intentional manipulation of the public. Netanyahu and his terrorist goons ARE the problem, but at this point removing them from power is just a small part of the solution. As a kid I always wandered how people can truly think a genocide is a good idea, as an adult I am sad to see that it really is that easy, it really can start with just the wrong people gaining power. And just to be fair, this is very much true about Palestine as well. While the situation is completely different, they too have been under a genocidal and terroristic regime since 2006 and many (probably most) would answer similarly to such a questionnaire about Israelis and Jews. Of course Palestine have had the short end of the stick for all of those years while Israel got to become a developed country. It's just sad to see how the people in power just fuck everyone around them, no one wins, no one is happy, all you get is death, hate and destruction, and of course the reason for all of this: Money, religion, power.

I don't know how to check who the mod was but it seems that they are removing plenty of content, some of which seems to be content that just doesn't support a black and white view of the situation where Palestinians are the only victims and Israelis are all evil (not excusing genocide here)

And the weird thing is that rule one has nothing to do with the comment:

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[-] [email protected] 10 points 6 days ago

The difference between Israeli violence against Palestinians and Palestinian violence against Israelis is that Israel colonized Palestine.

I'm tired of liberals both-sidesing this bullshit, not only on the internet as a whole but on fucking [email protected]? YDI.

[-] [email protected] 7 points 6 days ago

YDI.

Anyone who “both sides” a genocide not only deserves to be banned from a community for the oppressed people, but they are also a shit human being and a liberal. This is peak .world behavior, the only thing it’s missing is someone whining about CiViLiTy.

TLDR: you disgust me, I hope your shoelaces never stay tied, you step in dog shit every time you go outside, and you get an itchy rash that never goes away and covers half your face.

[+] [email protected] -6 points 6 days ago

People seem to be saying YDI with arguments that essentially come down to OP being wrong/ignorant. But even if that's true, it's not actually relevant. Most of what they were saying was just sharing their perspective, which by default should be allowed. If it's a bad take, downvote or argue in the comments or whatever. A comment should only be removed for things like being rule-breaking, something intolerable like CP, off-topic, doxxing, spam, ban-evasion, or perhaps a flagrant example of bad faith or personal attacks to the point of being harassment.

OP's comments were none of those things. Someone said that the ban was referencing instance rule 1 rather than community rule 1 but that still wouldn't apply. OP was not racist (or any other prohibited -ist). Essentially they have been saying the dominant powers in both Israel and Palestine have been exploiting their people and maintaining a culture of hatred to the other side, and that doing so is bad. Again, you may disagree with that assessment but it's not racism. They were careful to direct criticism to particular political groups and individuals. The residents of the countries were presented as victims, as deserving of sympathy as anyone else in an awful situation.

PTB

[-] [email protected] 4 points 5 days ago

Leave it to a .world liberal piece of shit to rules lawyer in defense of a fascist collaborator.

[-] [email protected] -2 points 1 day ago

Look at their comment again. They said the Israeli government has essentially been brainwashing and abusing its population for it own ends. Does that sound like a collaborator?

There should be justification for moderating someone's posts/comments, and it should be more than not liking what they are saying. This person made a controversial take criticizing governments only and honestly said it respectfully. That should be allowed.

[-] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago

Not in a community for the oppressed people, you fuckwit. Just from your comment I can tell you’re a white liberal male who has never had to deal with any sort of discrimination or oppression. Get the fuck out of here with that centrist “both sides” bullshit. You disgust me.

[-] [email protected] -1 points 23 hours ago

This is the description for the community:

A community to discuss everything Palestine.

#### Rules:

01. Posts can be in Arabic or English.

02. Please add a flair in the title of every post. Example: “[News] Israel annexes the West Bank ”, “[Culture] Musakhan is the nicest food in the world!”, “[Question] How many Palestinians live in Jordan?”

List of flairs:
[News] [Culture] [Discussion] [Question] [Request] [Guide]

Nothing there suggests criticism of the Palestinian government would be unwelcome. If that is the case, they should clarify that rather than just removing content with effectively no explanation. The comment was otherwise sympathetic to the Palestinian people, and with this to go on I would just be confused if I were in OP's shoes.

[-] [email protected] -2 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

Thank you, it is annoying how no one here actually focused on the point of this community. I respect peoples opinions and passion to share them, but I didn't come here to argue about the political issues, I came here to see if I did something wrong or is the mod really just disagreeing with me and abusing their power.

I believe in free speech, I respect the freedom of each user here to express their opinion. I don't believe that mod shares my free speech opinions.

P. S

Anyone who agrees with shutting down those who express opinions different from their own is not actually helping their cause. You want me to see the fault in my views? Talk to me! You want an echo chamber? Ban me 🤷‍♂️

[-] [email protected] 5 points 6 days ago

I didn't come here to argue about the political issues

If that were true, then you wouldn’t have tried relitigating your position in the OP.

You tried to “both sides” a genocide, on a comm for the people being murdered. Not only did YDI, but you’re a shit person as well. Let me guess though, you voted liberal in the last election?

[-] [email protected] 15 points 1 week ago

You try to equate the oppresor violence with the oppresed violence due to desperation and being oppressed for 57 years. Consciensly or not this is apologia to colonization.

I think you deserve it

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[-] [email protected] 12 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

The post was deleted by an admin ^1 and the 'rule 1' should be the instance rule 1:

No bigotry - including racism, sexism, ableism, homophobia, transphobia, or xenophobia.

Your comment on the Palestinian community, in my opinion, is a poor analysis of the historical and material conditions that have led to the current situation in Palestine. It ignores Zionism, colonialism, and the structural racism of Israel, both as a Zionist political project initially and as an effective state later.
You repeatedly use 'they' in your comment, with these 'they' being the extremists. My interpretation of your comment is that it starts from the hypothesis that 'extremism is bad'. I totally disagree. Often the extremists have been the vanguard of progress (people who believed that the earth revolved around the sun, 'liberals' willing to risk their lives cutting off the heads of kings and bishops...), although they can also be the vanguard of reaction (e.g. fascism).

If points 1 and 2 are correct, the violation of rule 1 is easily derived (dog-whistle, Zionist apology, anti-Palestinian resistance...).

IMHO, this only justifies deleting an elaborate comment if the community is defined as a safe space for Palestinians, they justifiably believe you are trolling, or they are flooded with similar messages. Otherwise, what the admin should have done is down-vote and reply for what they consider your argument to be toxic.

PTB/BPR

[-] [email protected] -1 points 1 week ago

I'm not a historian, I will probably make mistakes and I am open to conversation and criticism.

There is a lot of history here that I am not mentioning in the comment.

My comment was really about the fact that this lumping of groups is part of the problem. If 65% of Israelis are pro genocide that still leaves 3.4 million people that are presumably against it. Understanding that once a genocidal leader is in power for long enough, it absolutely can lead to hatred filled brainwashing which makes more of the population genocidal and this is how we get to such high numbers.

And I say this is true about Palestine as well because you hear the same BS from pro Israel people who claim that because so many Palestinians are celebrating Hamas they must all be genocidal, which probably means that they are actually ignoring some hundreds of thousands of people who do want peace.

Without getting into the past, you have to acknowledge that these broad accusations are part of the problem.

As for the extremists part, I specifically mean genocidal people, not just any extremists. I am well aware that extremists always have been and always will be a critical part of positive change.

[-] [email protected] 1 points 7 hours ago

My comment was really about the fact that this lumping of groups is part of the problem. If 65% of Israelis are pro genocide that still leaves 3.4 million people that are presumably against it. Understanding that once a genocidal leader is in power for long enough, it absolutely can lead to hatred filled brainwashing which makes more of the population genocidal and this is how we get to such high numbers.

That is all fine.

And I say this is true about Palestine as well

There is the problem. You are both sidesing the victims of an ongoing decades long gencide by colonizers by equating them those who are perpetrating the genocide. It is literally blaming the victim of violence for using violence to defend themselves.

[-] [email protected] 7 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Netanyahu and his terrorist goons ARE the problem

No, this is complete reductionism that ignores/denies 100+ years of history. This didn't start in 2006 FFS. Nobody wants to hear this BS. YDI.

they too have been under a genocidal and terroristic regime since 2006

No they haven't. There is only one genocide happening in palestine. Get a clue. YDI again.

while Israel got to become a developed country

I think you mean while "israel" murdered people to steal land and resources while funded by global imperialism... YDI again.

[-] [email protected] 5 points 1 week ago

YDI.

Edgy liberals fuck off.

[-] [email protected] 4 points 1 week ago

You made an attempt to draw false equivalence between the victims and perpetrators. YDI.

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