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[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago (2 children)

good to know because honestly after Meta forcing a clone of my Insta account onto Threads (which I'll never use), really considering finally cutting ties with all mainstream social media and deleting my Insta in favor of Pixelfed. and just going total fediverse.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Me too. I need to figure out how streaming works on Peertube.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Streaming is more difficult since you have to create a viewership from basically nothing, while sites like Twitch, Kick, and Youtube have a massive userbase for streaming content. You can join a peertube instance but there seems to be little content and few users. Owncast is ok, basically more like hosting your own Twitch channel, but again you would need to byo userbase. You can use mastodon/kbin/lemmy to build up a following. Not sure if anyone has made a stable income from these services though.

Couple resources for people to look-up:

https://directory.owncast.online/
https://instances.joinpeertube.org/instances

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah, video hosting is going to be the tough one. It's very costly for volunteers.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

And I'd think much more likely to be subject to copyright claims and/or child porn crap. it's bittorrent type sharing so it opens up to a world of legal pain it would seem. Really hard for a volunteer setup to deal with that.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I guess you'll just have to resign yourselves to never seeing my beautiful, snake-framed face.

This could be a plus.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

This is the way.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I’ve heard the name Pixelfed before, but I don’t know what it is, or why the ability to sign in with Mastodon is important.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Pixelfed is a federated photo sharing platform similar to instagram, signing in with Mastodon lets you carry over who you're following on Mastodon.
So I wouldn't say it's too important, but I thought it belonged here.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You’re totally right; it does belong here. It’s nice to see Mastadon getting more acceptance!

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I think it's also worth mentioning here that, since both pixelfed and mastodon belong to the fediverse, you can follow pixelfed users from mastodon and vice versa and see each others posts. :)
That's why the whole carrying over the people you follow stuff is a thing.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Yeah. Even though I’ll probably never use Pixelfed (I don’t use Instagram, either, or anything like it) I still acknowledge that’s a pretty cool feature.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

You can use Pixelfed in the same way you use Imgur (assuming you use Imgur) to post memes or gifs and link them onto Lemmy/Kbin.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

And this is where federation and interoperability becomes nice imo, because one doesn't have to use pixelfed and can still get content from Pixelfed in their Mastodon feed, if they want to.

Say someone would like to see the content of just a few Pixelfed users, but doesn't want to create an own Pixelfed account just for that, one can just to follow those specific Pixelfed users with their Mastodon account to see the Pixelfed posts in their Mastodon home timeline.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

It's like being able to use your Twitter account to log into Instagram. But the Fediverse version.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago
[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I dont understand what pixelfed brings that mastodon doesnt already

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

some people like a image focused experience. That's why Instagram and Twitter both exist despite having basically the same feature set.

Even more importantly, open standards need multiple implementations to thrive. Kbin and lemmy offer nearly the same feature set too, but having more than one implementation makes the fediverse more healthy

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Yeah i never understood instagram either. I use twitter mainly to follow artists already.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Has anyone been able to successfully follow a pixelfed account from their mastodon account?

I’ve manually searched for a few pixelfed accounts and followed them in mastodon clients but I don’t seem to get any content in my timeline

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Works well enough for me

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I followed my own pixelfed from my mastodon account and I can see my own posts, including in the timeline

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I sort of just assumed you could view PixelFed content with a Mastodon account anyway? Would this effectively create a second identical account?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

You can view Pixelfed from Mastodon, but the interface of Mastodon is more focused on text microblogging than on image sharing. By federating the logins they are kind-of making an SSO of sorts, so now you can use the full pixelfed interface but your suscriptions and history stay on your Mastodon instance and just federate over to the pixelfed instance you are login into.

That's how people new to the fediverse were expeting it to work (myself included when I joined last year), so it's nice to see it starting to shift that way.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Right, the ability to port your social graph with you is the benefit here.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Don't believe that's how it works. It's not SSO (which would be AWESOME). That will create an actual local account on other servers. This is still your mastodon account 'viewing' a pixelfed account via the ActivityPub protocol. It's just the 'view' that's different for different services (very broad definition). Viewing a pixelfed account/profile via a pixelfed instance shows you a photo gallery that has text with each photo (not alt text). Viewing that same pixelfed account from a mastodon account, you'd see a series of toots/posts text that happen to mostly have pictures. The reverse view of pixelfed looking at a Mastodon account, not sure but I'd guess just a mostly empty photo gallery with text associated?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Yeah, it's not SSO, that's why I wrote "of sorts", but the post is precisely of how Pixelfed will now allow Mastodon users to log into a Pixelfed instance with their Mastodon account, meaning they will not see the current view of pixelfed as looked from a Mastodon interface but should look as if the user had a pixelfed account, since they are using the pixelfed interface.

It's not released yet, so I have not tested it, but hopefully soon.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (2 children)

is this a good or bad idea?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Probably bad. It centralizes the logins on mastodon and give them power over all the other tools that depend on them. If a gafam purchases a big mastodon instance then he also purchases a lot of accounts too.