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What I mean is like for example, a person having "gravitational pull" or someone making a "quantum leap" makes no sense to anyone who knows about physics. Gravity is extremely weak and quantum leaps are tiny.

Or "David versus Goliath" to describe a huge underdoge makes no sense to anyone who knows about history, because nobody bringing a gun to a sword fight is going to be the underdog but that's essentially what David did.

I'm looking for more examples like that.

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[-] [email protected] 6 points 6 days ago

"Rome wasn't built in a day"

Has an entirely different message to me. It's often used as a reminder to be patient, not to loose your temper, etc.

On the day Rome was founded Romulus killed his brother Remus and marked out the city of Rome, construction starts. This is my initial reaction.

The next thing the Romans, a group of men (probably criminals), did after founding Rome was to raid their neighbours and kidnap their women. Rome then makes war for the better part of a thousand years, eventually subjugating the known world.

I think it's better used as a reminder subjugation starts out in small measures. "Parliament just passed antiterrorism laws, I'm sure they're to protect us" "Rome wasn't built in a day"

[-] [email protected] 0 points 6 days ago

"You cannot have a cake and eat it too?"
Bruv, if I have a cake in my hands, I am going to eat it.
It's like me giving a back massage to my girlfriend. Things are going to get groped.
Yes, I have a girlfriend. I will not be taking any questions.

[-] [email protected] 67 points 1 week ago

Sleep like a baby. That is not what I'd consider a good night's sleep.

[-] [email protected] 41 points 1 week ago

Sleep like a baby: Scream of horror every hour, cry every 4th, and shit yourself at a random times throughout the night.

Source: Four of them. Luckily, all are past that stage.

[-] [email protected] 8 points 1 week ago

Sleep like a geriatric dog

[-] [email protected] 4 points 1 week ago

Yeah I'll take the" sleep like a cat " please

[-] [email protected] 48 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

There are a number of idioms that MythBusters tested, some of which were disproven and some of which were confirmed/plausible.

It is easy to punch out of a paper bag.

10 pounds of poop will not fit in a 5-pound bag.

People can easily recognize the backs of their own hands.

Taking candy from a baby is not as easy as it sounds.

People may literally get cold feet when they are scared/timid.

If poop hits a fan it can indeed create a large mess.

You can teach an old dog new tricks.

With an enormous amount of force, it is possible to literally knock someone's socks off.

In a race, it is not literally better to hit the ground running.

You can polish poop.

Shooting fish in a barrel is fairly easy; the shock wave from a bullet can be enough to kill the fish.

A bull in a china shop will actively avoid hitting the shelves.

A rolling stone truly gathers no moss.

Finding a needle in a haystack is difficult, even with modern technology.

[EDIT: a couple of other idioms not in the idiom section of the link.

It is possible to make a balloon out of lead.

It is not possible to herd cats.

A goldfish's memory is not limited to three seconds.

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[-] [email protected] 25 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

if a poop hits the fan it can indeed create a large mess.

😭 thanks for testing that, Mythbusters, never would've known. what was that quote of theirs? the difference between screwing around and science is writing it down?

[-] [email protected] 8 points 1 week ago

Believe that can be credited to Adam Savage in particular.

[-] [email protected] 7 points 1 week ago

He attributes it to someone else, but saw its potential where its originator didn't.

Source: A quick web search turns up the originator's name as Alex Jason. Savage has talked about it numerous times in YouTube videos and livestreams, which are somewhat harder to dig through.

[-] [email protected] 5 points 1 week ago

Why are so many about poop?

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[-] [email protected] 45 points 1 week ago

The use of "quantum leap" isn't about comparing the absolute size of the change to quantum phenomena. It's about the lack of a smooth transition. Quantum leaps in physics are instantaneous transitions between states with no intermediate. That's the idea with the colloquialism: a sudden shift from one state to another without a smooth transitional period.

[-] [email protected] 9 points 1 week ago

Yeah, a lot of these things actually do make sense, just in a more precise way than even the people using them intend. Gravitational pull is also like this. Earth's gravitational pull is not weak, it literally keeps everything on Earth tethered to it. More importantly, it happens as an intrinsic property of the Earth, the Earth doesn't need to "try" to exert gravitational pull on things. Furthermore, gravitational pull attracts more mass which begets even more gravitational pull, like a snowball effect.

So gravitational pull is not about the strength of the force, but the fact that it is natural, effortless, and often forms a positive feedback loop (borrowing from another comment here lol).

So if I say someone at work has a lot of gravitational pull, I'm conveying that they do a good job of bringing other people into their area or work, that they naturally do it almost without even trying to, and that as their social influence grows, they just end up with even more social influence. It's a really deep metaphor which is also physically accurate.

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[-] [email protected] 43 points 1 week ago

Not quite an idiom, but one of the senior managers at work keeps talking about Moore's Law in the context of AI stuff like it's some kind of fundamental law of the universe that any given technology will double in capability every 2 years

  1. Moore observed that transistor density in microprocessors had historically been doubling every 18 months, and this trend more or less continued for a decade or so after he noted it
  2. Density has nothing to do with the capability of technology that uses those microprocessors. The performance of the chips roughly doubled every couple of years, but there was a lot more going on with that than just transistor density
  3. Moore's law hasn't held for at least the last decade
[-] [email protected] 37 points 1 week ago
  1. Even when Moore's Law was still holding ground, it was countered by Wirth's Law: software is getting slower at a more rapid pace than hardware is getting faster.
[-] [email protected] 9 points 1 week ago

wp:Wirth's law

Wirth's law is an adage on computer performance which states that software is getting slower more rapidly than hardware is becoming faster.

[-] [email protected] 4 points 1 week ago

Kinda wild how a web pages still take several seconds to load. I remember first hearing about multi-megabyte per second internet and assumed pages will load instantly. Now a webpage is so large it takes compiled languages several seconds to parse them.

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[-] [email protected] 5 points 1 week ago

Ugh I would struggle to keep a straight face.

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[-] [email protected] 37 points 1 week ago

What doesn't kill you makes you stronger, does not hold true for many diseases including many cancers

[-] [email protected] 23 points 1 week ago

What doesn’t kill you, cripple you for life or leave mental scars, might make you stronger. Chances are, it will make you weaker.

[-] [email protected] 20 points 1 week ago

What doesn't kill you might succeed on a second attempt.

[-] [email protected] 4 points 1 week ago

Physical scars can also be a bitch.

[-] [email protected] 9 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

What doesn't kill you leaves you with a crushing hospital bill (in the US)

[-] [email protected] 5 points 1 week ago

My grandma’s version of “5 second rule” is “what doesn’t kill you makes you fatter”

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[-] [email protected] 20 points 1 week ago

The saying "shoot for the moon, even if you miss you'll land among the stars". No you won't, the stars are outside the solar system, they're much further away than the moon

[-] [email protected] 9 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

"Shoot for the moon, and if you miss you'll end up drifting aimlessly until you die" doesn't sound as good, but probably works just as well as an analogy

[-] [email protected] 7 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

As a dumbass I say: if you go wizing past the moon and nothing else reacts with you, you will eventually end up among the stars.

[-] [email protected] 16 points 1 week ago

Below par or under par. Used backwards by everyone. As a golfer, I want to be under par.

[-] [email protected] 23 points 1 week ago

Par comes from the Latin word meaning equal and that usage predates the golf term by 300 years.

[-] [email protected] 12 points 1 week ago

So sub-par doesn't really imply the golf way of being good, but actually means below equal/average? Then I'm fine with using below par as a negative.

[-] [email protected] 4 points 1 week ago

I've never seen sub-par used to mean positive, always as "under average".

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[-] [email protected] 10 points 1 week ago

I hadn’t heard this take. Did David cheat by using the slingshot? Was that not allowed? Was this like a duel with rules?

[-] [email protected] 7 points 1 week ago

I don't know about ancient duel rules to say whether bringing a sling was permitted. The take is more along the lines of "David wasn't an underdog. If anything, David was the clear favourite to win because of his weapon". Because a sling at the time was a highly effective and deadly weapon which was still regularly used for centuries after the supposed events of that biblical story because of its effectiveness.

[-] [email protected] 6 points 1 week ago

I don't know about ancient duel rules

It was simply a war, and no rules.

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[-] [email protected] 9 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

"Positive feedback loop" to indicate a situation in which circumstances feeding into each other result in more good things happening, or "negative feedback loop" to indicate bad circumstances feeding into each other to result in more bad things happening.

I have worked with enough controls folks to know that positive feedback in a control loop often leads to instability (bad), while negative feedback in a control loop can be used to stabilize the system (good). It just comes down to the math in the situation.

So people saying that they are in a positive feedback loop can, to a controls person, sound counterintuitive. E.g. "I'm in a positive feedback loop of working out, having more energy as a result, and working out more, making me healthier!" would be momentarily confusing.

I did grad school at an engineering/STEM-focused school, and the campus psychiatrist actually used these terms correctly when discussing anxiety attacks! As an engineer myself, that made my nerdy heart happy 🤣

Another control theory phrase issue: The phrase "more optimal" is incorrect and very well may earn the speaker an "umm, actually" from any controls folks in the conversation. Optimality is not a scale--either something is optimal (with respect to a specific metric), or it isn't.

(EDIT: reducing verbosity)

[-] [email protected] 4 points 1 week ago

Hm, this is interesting. I only have a passing understanding of control theory, but couldn't a positive feedback loop indeed be good when the output is always desirable in increased quantities? A positive feedback loop doesn't necessarily lead to instability, like you said. So maybe this is just me actually-ing your actually, lol.

As for "more optimal", oof, I say that a lot so maybe I'm biased. When I say that I'm thinking like a percentage. If optimal is X, then 80% of X is indeed more of the optimal amount than 20% of X. Yes, optimality is a point, but "more optimal" just seems like shorthand for "closer to optimal". Or maybe I should just start saying that?

This reminds me of a professor I had who hates when people say something is "growing exponentially", since he argued the exponent could be 1, or fractional, or negative. It's a technically correct distinction, but the thing is that people who use that term to describe something growing like x^2, are not even wrong that it's exponential. I feel like when it comes to this type of phrasing, it's fine not to deal with edge cases, because being specific actually makes what is said more confusing.

"I'm in a negative feedback loop with respect to my laziness which will soon stabilize with me continually going to the gym daily, which is closer to optimal than before. As a result, my energy levels are going to increase exponentially, where the value of the exponent is greater than 1!"

Hmm. Now that I say it that doesn't seem that crazy. Although I do still think some common "default settings" don't do any harm.

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[-] [email protected] 8 points 1 week ago

There is a "learning curve" to it - used as "it will be easier after a while. It's the other way around. Learning curve is when you learn like crazy at first, but than after you knock out all the easy wins your progres slows dramaticaly.

[-] [email protected] 14 points 1 week ago

Depends on the slope of the curve.

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[-] [email protected] 7 points 1 week ago

Idk it makes sense to me. The learning part is the hard part, once you've past the learning curve doing the task is easier because you've already learned the stuff you need.

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Thunder only happens when it's rainin'

Players only love you when they're playin'

[-] [email protected] 2 points 3 days ago

Every time I hear this song I just shake my head.

[-] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago

Isn't it ironic? Don't you think?

[-] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago

Absolutely.

[-] [email protected] 4 points 1 week ago

"Does a bear shit in the woods?"

Might be a regional thing but people would often say this as a sarcastic but emphatic "Yes" reply to people, particularly "obvious" answers.

Truth is, my personal observation is that they will make every opportunity to come out on the nearest road or field and shit there.

Obviously one could argue the pedantry (eg rural = woods, or most shit is in wooded areas) but my point is back to there actually being enough nuance to argue the point that they aren't making the point they think they are when they say that.

I'm fun at parties!

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