I'm hearing Lemmy itself, the .ml instance and some others are ran by Tankies that censor criticism of russia and china. What are your thoughts on this? (lemmy.world)

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[-] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago

This is going to be why Lemmy doesn't take off long term.

[-] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago

I don’t think it will keep it from taking off, but I am not sure that all the most popular communities should be on lemmy.ml.

I appreciate that the devs/admins for the most part do encourage dissent.

[-] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago

Idk would you sign up to a place you'd heard was run by tankies? I sure wouldn't.

[-] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

Good thing most instances are run by other people, then.

[-] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago

Here’s a discussion about this: https://lemmy.world/post/24798

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[-] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago

"The Net interprets censorship as damage and routes around it" - John Gilmore

[-] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

To me, this is like Richard Stallman and certain reprehensible actions and opinions.

Just like with Stallman and his contributions to software, I can justify using Lemmy to myself due to it being open source and the devs not directly financially profiting from the spread of Lemmy (although it certainly raises their public profile).

It's definitely unfortunate that they're Tankies.

[-] [email protected] -1 points 2 years ago

devs not directly financially profiting from the spread of Lemmy

Aren't they though? Even if we ignore the obvious aspect of getting donations and exposure, they will also get more contributors for their project which will push them even further ahead of other competitors in this space.

I agree people might be blowing it a bit too much out of proportion at times, but then again we shouldn't pretend that it doesn't matter either.

[-] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

Who cares? We're not on lemmy.ml, are we?

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[-] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

I know the lemmygrad.ml instance claims to be Marxist but I don't think they're generally taken that seriously (and not to be confused with lemmy.ml) - is that what you're confusing? Apart from that, the federal nature of Lemmy means it doesn't really matter what the creator's political beliefs are.

[-] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago

Nah. I think the ".ml" means Marxist Leninist to them. At least that's what one of the tanky types I chatted to on lemmy.ml said.

[-] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

I’m pretty sure the domain name might just be a consequence of it being free to register for a year at a time through freenom, and being not super known for spam like .tk

[-] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

One of the people I was taking too was complaining that people were surprised that it was tanky when it was "obvious" from the domain name that it was Marxist Leninist.

[-] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

Thought I’m on NCD for a moment here lol

[-] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

There are plenty of other instances to join if you don't like the .ml servers' opinions. From what I can see, all tastes are catered for. Just find another server.

And, no, I'm not affiliated with the .ml instances nor am I a so-called Tankie.

[-] [email protected] 0 points 2 years ago

Where did you hear this from? That's pretty dumb, honestly, if it's true.

[-] [email protected] -1 points 2 years ago

Better a tanky than a pig

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[-] [email protected] -2 points 2 years ago

Do you have any proof of that? Just curious where you got that from (:

[-] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

No proof, I just heard about it. A buddy and someone on reddit told me about "tankies on lemmy" which I dismissed as drama at first, then I heard it's actually the main devs too, then I did a quick google search and search on lemmy here, it seems universally agreed upon at least in those threads from what I can see.

[-] [email protected] 0 points 2 years ago

I can't verify their censorship, but they also run Lemmygrad. If you take a look around there you'll find literal propaganda. The solution is to not interact with lemmy.ml at least that's the solution in my opinion.

[-] [email protected] -1 points 2 years ago

Not sure about any censorship happening either, I'm just wondering even just what rogue devs could do once lemmy gets bigger, and I do worry about the social capital they get, afterall they promote their servers prominently on the main lemmy site. I can somewhat tolerate far right or far left on my social media (well not directly, but in the other room next to mine) as long as it's contained, follows ToS in good enough faith and doesn't spread too much through cryptic messaging and memes. I wonder if this crosses that line for me already, I'm not sure, and not sure what the facts of the situation actually are, hence the post.