More like it builds off the foundation of PureOS by Purism which already has a convergence use case covered by the OS....
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Better late than never I guess
They are trying to kill normal desktops, it will be easier to transition everything online at megacorps.
That's why we need linux phones.
Honestly Graphene on desktop is best case scenario for me. Windows has too many ads and spying, Linux doesn't have enough support, MacOS hardware is too damn expensive and tightly-controlled.
Linux doesnβt have enough support
What? It works on everything I try it on. Perfectly. The only stuff that doesn't work perfectly are peripherals, but that same lack of support would be true in Android. Or do you mean native applications? Because even though that's true, you can run more on Linux if you include Wine/Proton and stuff like Waydroid.
Yes, or LineageOS.
But with Android app support in Linux maybe some day I could get both worlds ...
(I need apps bcs society demands then, like banking, work stuff, etc.)
Oh yeah, good point
Android is Linux
This is a very umm ackshully βοΈπ€ response.
Yes, Android is a (extremely heavily forked) Linux distribution. I'd be willing to bet money the above poster knows that too. You aren't giving us new information here.
Furthermore, I think you knew what the above user's point was: they want a more open phone and OS landscape where users are the boss of their own software and hardware, not tech giants.
Android is, in practical terms, its own thing, under Google's control, bundles all kinds of Google crap, and can't be replaced on most phones.
Yes, Android is a (extremely heavily forked) Linux distribution.
Well ackshually Android kernel nowadays is built from an upstream unmolested Linux kernel sources, straight from Torvalds' git repository.
And the rest is just the init system, which is not systemd so it's better by definition even though it's written in Java, and a display server written in Java, because there was no Wayland when Android development started.
Yes. The point is Linux doesn't solve the problem of megacorps and it's not like Linux on phones isn't something that hasn't been tried before. Projects like Ubuntu Touch and Firefox OS went nowhere.
The point is Linux doesn't solve the problem of megacorps
You still aren't getting it.
That user already knows that Android is a heavily-forked version of Linux.
They already know that simply including some Linux code won't magically make everything pure and wonderful, because they know that we already have Linux code in Android, and as they point out, it isn't pure and wonderful.
it's not like Linux on phones isn't something that hasn't been tried before. Projects like Ubuntu Touch and Firefox OS went nowhere.
Canonical didn't even try with Ubuntu Touch, they never released anything to market. They did a Kickstarter that raked in more than anything else ever had, then they gave up.
I'm not certain Mozilla ever had real devices on the market either.
Besides, just because there have been two failures in the past doesn't mean it's impossible, or that the above user is wrong for desiring a proper Linux smartphone.
Lmao, using Linux kernel ...
DeX is pretty cool. Google should have gone that route from the beginning instead of that split strategy with ChromeOS. More Android apps would support big screens were it not for ChromeBooks running a different, web based OS.
Nothing feels cooler than plugging in my phone with Dex to a small USB c hub at work to get desktop mode on a secondary monitor and then using a VPN home and opening my virtual machine for a full desktop
Yeah dex is very impressive but it still falls short for my use cases. Apart from browsing the web and office suites you cannot do much.
Does that mean desktop mode will be available by default? Some of the earlier reporting said it was hidden behind flags and may never see general release.
It's currently hidden behind some developer settings. On Android 15. It probably won't be ready by the time 16 is released, but it'll probably drop in an update.
That's what I'm hoping for. I doubt I'll use it, but I really liked the idea.
From what I've read in the last few month, it will probably not be ready for the release of android 16.