if it wasn't regan, it was the great depression. if it wasn't the great depression it was the civil war.

we didn't start the fire. it was always burning since the world's been turning.

It was the stagflation in the seventies. That's when the rich managed to switch the economy back to exploitation mode to neoliberalism, and Reagan was their tool.

Or Nixon.

9/11, horrible as it was, just gave them a good reason to put into law some truly undemocratic shit they probably already had waiting in a drawer for a while.

Trump is the fallout making us sick.

This is more of a political commentary on that fact that when I was politically activated, preteen, its been nothing but down hill.

Florida? Yeah I heard a podcast about this, eerily similar to all that's been happening around the last 2 elections.

That's exactly where the timeline jumped the tracks. if Gore's election is properly counted, there's potentially no 9/11, but certainly no Iraq and probably no Afghanistan as we know it. And without Bush and the whiplash against him and those events, there's no Obama. And without the mouth breather whiplash to Obama, there's no Trump.

So yeah, I would say that the republicans fucking around in south Florida is what caused the rift.

9/11 was a catalyst for forces that were already in play.

Casus belli* 😅

That was but a symptom, a healthy society wouldn't have let that happen to our boi Harambe in the first place

I think this is the right place to look.

At the bare minimum, back then the founders wrote a constitution designed AND INTENDED to be amended, if not rewritten every once in a while.

As of like 80 years ago people started to get it in their head that the USA was somehow the greatest nation to ever exist and could never be better. Maybe because of how it helped out in WWII? Maybe because of how the economy boomed following the war? Who knows. But Nationalism has certainly put the nails in the coffin.

Don't forget about the genocide of the natives.

Death by a thousand cuts. No single event led to the Nazis seizing power, no single even led to the Conservatives enacting their fascist regime in the US. Yeah, some steps were bigger than others, the likes of Reagan, W, and Trump shoving things faster and further right than others, but none of them singlehandedly achieved the coup d’etat. Trump benefitted from all the groundwork laid before along with the hard work of the likes of McConnell that did everything they could to prevent democracy from working.

My God damn great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great grandpa wanted to distill more grain so now here I am, working a god forsaken 9-5 :(

Let's throw some wild cards to keep your world entertaining

Kinda hinted toward it in another post but its more about my own personal perspective. At a young age my life was mostly devoid of politics and america seemed like an ok place. Since the attack on the twin towers, for me personally, america has only gotten worse. To me, 911 marks the end of america, as an idea.

Is it a change of trajectory If instead of going down a long slope you turn down a road leading toward the edge of a cliff? Because while I agree about capitalism leading to inevitable horrific consequences there's really no way to argue against 9/11 ushering in an age of utter Horrors when it came to civil rights.

Of course you could also make the argument that the turn towards that Cliff was actually caused by the Supreme Court picking George W bush to be our president.

It didn't change the trajectory, but those attacks were much more effective than even Al Qaeda thought they would be. They provided the excuse the American fascists were looking for to further their own plans without much push back.