this post was submitted on 16 May 2025
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[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

I work a 4x10 workweek right now. Huge improvement on my quality of life. I use my free weekday to handle chores and shopping and appointments, then actually spend my weekend with my family. I've been doing this for about 3 years.

I know I'll lose this someday. Eventually somebody will use it against me. That's the day I'll start entertaining new opportunities.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Could you imagine 4x8 with same pay? Even better!

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 hour ago

They're probably only really getting 8 hours of quality work out of most people in a 10 hour day anyway.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago) (1 children)

🥳

Now let's go for 12 hour tit for tat work weeks!


Nú skulum við fara í 12 tíma vinnuvikur þar sem við skiptum á milli!

12hrttww

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 hours ago

You're getting me too excited, stop filling my head with such wondrous dreams!

[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 hours ago

Yes, but what about the suffering?

[–] [email protected] 35 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

Don't worry. Us Americans will entirely ignore that other 1st world nations have a better quality of life and we'll continue to allow our abusers to abuse us more.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 8 hours ago

except for the nazis who will declare that better quality of life is only possible if the population is all "white"

[–] [email protected] 111 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

There were fears of a drop in productivity, increased costs for businesses and difficulties in adapting to maintain service levels. However, the Icelandic experience has swept these fears under the carpet.

I don’t think that metaphor means what they think it means.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 8 hours ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 9 points 7 hours ago

Whadid y'all call me

[–] [email protected] 43 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

I would love that. Just one more day, one more day a week to do my own activities. That would help so much with all the anxieties.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 10 hours ago

I was lucky enough to experience the 4 day work week for 1 glorious year. I used my extra day to schedule weekday appointments without taking time off, taking care of chores so I could enjoy the weekend more, and doing more hobbies when I wasn't doing those other 2 things. It was the best quality of life I ever had.

[–] [email protected] 31 points 10 hours ago

This is where unions really dropped the ball. I feel in the eighties and even back in the seventies they were pushing for overtime over increased staffing and thus membership plus not going for lower work week. Its crazy that the work week increased over the last 50 years (well in the us).

[–] [email protected] 19 points 10 hours ago (2 children)

How does a 36-hour workweek work out to a four-day workweek?

Here in Norway everyone in sneezing distance of a union deal has a five-day workweek at 7.5 hours a day, for 37.5 hours in total. (The law says six days at 8 hours; the half-hour difference is in practice lunch, which is your own time with a union deal and the boss' time without. I think we could go down to 7h a day and get an hour of lunch like our neighbours.)

[–] [email protected] 32 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

9 x 4 = 36

IANI (I am not Icelandic) but that's my guess based on currently-accepted mathematical models.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 10 hours ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] -4 points 10 hours ago

There's nothing probable about the combination of a Nordic country and a 9-hour workday.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 10 hours ago

The Icelandic experiment began in 2015 with a pilot phase involving around 2,500 employees, or just over 1% of the country’s working population. Following the resounding success of this initiative, with 86% of the employees involved expressing their support, the project was made official in 2019 . Today, almost 90% of Icelandic workers benefit from a reduced working week of 36 hours, compared with 40 hours previously, with no loss of pay. Initial concerns about the four-day week were widespread, both in Iceland and elsewhere in the world. There were fears of a drop in productivity, increased costs for businesses and difficulties in adapting to maintain service levels. However, the Icelandic experience has swept these fears under the carpet.

The Icelandic experiment began in 2015 with a pilot phase involving around 2,500 employees, or just over 1% of the country’s working population. Following the resounding success of this initiative, with 86% of the employees involved expressing their support, the project was made official in 2019 . Today, almost 90% of Icelandic workers benefit from a reduced working week of 36 hours, compared with 40 hours previously, with no loss of pay. Initial concerns about the four-day week were widespread, both in Iceland and elsewhere in the world. There were fears of a drop in productivity, increased costs for businesses and difficulties in adapting to maintain service levels. However, the Icelandic experience has swept these fears under the carpet.