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"Joining the fediverse isn't hard bro, your instance doesn't matter, just pick one."
"Stop using Lemmy.world, we need to redistribute to smaller instances."
The number of times I've heard these fucking lines when people discuss why Lemmy/the Fediverse isn't growing like corp-owned alternatives...
“Joining the fediverse isn’t hard bro, your instance doesn’t matter, just pick one.”
It's true, especially in cases like this when users have 3 months to pick another instance.
“Stop using Lemmy.world, we need to redistribute to smaller instances.”
Also true. Should LW go down in 90 days in a similar way, is it better if LW has 50% of the users, or a smaller number?
I saw a few of their users here and there. Rip in rest. Come to lemm.ee.
Now that they're out, lemmy.zero?
never heard of lemmy one
It originally set out to be just an account-hosting instance, at a time when the major instances with the big communities would be going down as usage surged from people leaving Reddit. This way it was more responsive and reliably online. They have <10 communities hosted on the instance.
sounds useful! hope we fill that niche
Everyone thinks the moderation/admin features need to be improved. I'm curious which improvements people are really needing. Whenever I see big complaints about it (beehaw, lemmy.one) I never see any specifics. Link the filed Github issues for them otherwise the feature requests don't really exist, and I'd like to give them thumbs up reactions so they get prioritized more.
Once I saw Beehaw give an actual specific complaint, and it was fixed in a hotfix (v0.18.5) within a couple weeks. Of course Beehaw never updated to that version anyways.
Here are a few things off the top of my head.
Deleted accounts leave orphaned posts/comments, which still exist on the site but can be difficult for admins to find and remove: https://github.com/LemmyNet/lemmy/issues/5525
Private message reports don't go to all the right people: https://github.com/LemmyNet/lemmy/issues/4436
We should be getting some vote analytics in the future, which will be great. Lemmy seems to have a significant number of vote manipulation accounts that only exist to upvote/downvote in unison, but they are currently hard to find. https://github.com/LemmyNet/lemmy/pull/5669
I really should open an issue to improve the reports queue. It's tolerable if you mod an individual community or a smaller instance, but it is unusable as an admin on a really big instance like .world. There is no way to search or sort the reports. You can filter by posts or comments but then it only shows you 20 entries, which is a weird and unhelpful limitation. All reports have equal priority; there is no mechanism for users to flag reports that should be escalated to admins. And, if something is heavily reported, there is no way to batch resolve the reports after you address the issue.
Deleted accounts leave orphaned posts/comments, which still exist on the site but can be difficult for admins to find and remove: https://github.com/LemmyNet/lemmy/issues/5525
I wonder, are you able to view these if you switch to "Chat" view?
the problem isn't being able to see them in the thread but that you can't open the user profile, so you don't see if there are any comments.
A built in auto mod is the largest thing. A way to say that this common pattern is spam and to block it system wide, right now we just don't have that. A nice to have stretch goal would be to use some model to fight actual gore or csam material, which just doesn't exist. A moderation dashboard would be great to see users with their comment history, vote trends, high level to see if a person just had an off comment that might be taken the wrong way, or if there is a trend of trolling behavior
These have been opened on the GitHub and either sit open forever or are just closed.
does Reddit have any of these tools built-in? they sound cool, but they can also be built externally (I believe an automod exists?), and I would say correctly take a back seat to bug fixes
Why compare us to reddit? We feel like Reddit but from a hosting and admin perspective it's a whole different ballgame. Mods of reddit at worst run the risk of their communities being taken down for a bit if they let content slip through. Here on Lemmy us admins are legally liable for content that is posted. We don't have a large limited liability corporation that will take the hit for us. We need these tools, or we are the ones that will have boots through doors.
https://github.com/RikudouSage/LemmyAutomod
I think it's better as separate software. It means it can be developed more efficiently. And this seems to have a lot of features, so it seems it is efficient to develop this way.
Yes.
Unrelated, but deus ex randomized sounds like a great idea. It's been so long I feel like I would have to replay the base game first.
we have a game mode called "Zero Rando" (no randomization) that's basically vanilla with QoL improvements and bug fixes
the Randomizer had so many compatibility fixes, QoL improvements, and bug fixes over the original game, this ended up being really useful for new first time players
since you've played before we also have "Zero Rando Plus" which is the same thing, but also includes the balance changes we've made for Randomizer
and we also have "Rando Lite" and "Rando Medium" to get started with the randomization stuff before going up to Normal Randomizer or Full Randomizer
https://www.youtube.com/watch?list=PLZIQTa_kwZhBksj7UzcahPiRaHk87fWch&v=ksoj1QMoGIc
Unrelated, but Moby Dick was named after a real white whale named Mocha Dick, which was nicknamed after first being encountered near Mocha Island.
I'm a bit bummed as lemmy.one was my introduction to the ecosystem. :(
OTOH, when they were having server problems, I set up a kbin account, but left it when it became clear I could only use the kbin app to access it. Looks like that's shut down now too!
kbin development has halted due to personal issues of the sole dev.
It has since been forked as mbin and seems to be doing well. I too am waiting for stronger app support to truly compare.
I'm excited for both Piefed and MBin. Both projects are progressing rapidly and have communities that seem to have their heads and hearts in the the right places
I'm a fellow mbin convert myself. When the great exodus happened, I set up a Lemmy instance, but I took a 4 month break from it for reasons I don't recall. When I tried to spin that instance back up it wouldn't pull in new posts and didn't support oidc, but I saw that mbin did, so I switched to that and was pretty happy with its look and feel.
Writing this message on the interstellar app just now. My only minor gripe is that there's no way to mark something as read with a single tap that I've found. (Got to long press and mark as read, but I'll accept that I may have missed something)
Writing this message on the interstellar app just now. My only minor gripe is that there's no way to mark something as read with a single tap that I've found. (Got to long press and mark as read, but I'll accept that I may have missed something)
I'll give a quick overview: to mark a post as read, you need to either open it, vote on it, boost it, or mark it as read explicitly, which can be done through the overflow menu (long press or tap overflow button, like you said) or by configuring the swipe gestures to have the mark as read action (then all you have to do is swipe on the post). In the next update, we will also have a "mark as read on scroll" option, which, when enabled, will mark all posts in your feed as read once it scrolls off the top of the screen.
Oh, thanks for getting back with the overview. I appreciate it and will shortly be doing the swipe to mark as read once I find the option.
Mark as read on scroll will be great when that comes out too as that'll work nicely for me.
That's kind of sad but also isn't surprising. They didn't exactly put in a huge amount of effort to maintain it, nor did they put in much effort to grow it or make it appealing as a server for people to join.
That explains why despite it being around for a while I seem to have no opinion of it.
Edit: always sad to see an instance go however
Not surprised. Moderation tools have needed to be the top priority for a long time, and most of lemmy’s users don’t know how janky it is behind the scenes.
most ~~of lemmy’s~~ users don’t know how janky it is behind the scenes
That’s technology in general
Fair point
Sounds like admin tools should be first.
Any significant communities impacted? Scrolling through my subscriptions list and I don't have any in my list.
Edit: not to mention the users
Edit2: 131 monthly active users apparently
Also that was the "official" alternative to the subreddit, for what it's worth.
hopefully it can migrate to a small non-controversial instance.
infosec.pub? lemmy.cafe?
Perhaps even dbzer0?
Oh that is kinda sad.