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[–] [email protected] 27 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Seems like Blahaj has no issue with ML supporting russian genocidal imperialism and the way russia treats LGBT folks. It seems their concern about trans folks rights doesn't include Ukrainian trans folks (and Ukrainian LGBT folks more broadly) who were forced to leave the territories occupied by russia.

Compare that to the decision to defederate over a single post (that explicitly stated that everyone should be treated equally and not discriminated against) on feddit.uk.

For some reason the term orientalism comes to mind.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 day ago (8 children)

For some reason I've always gotten a very white vibe from blahaj.zone. I can't explain it, but I just don't feel that nonwhite people are exactly as welcome there. I've felt that way in a lot of trans spaces in the past that were very centered on a white view of transness. The racism is never overt, there's just a vibe hanging over those kinds of spaces. I don't have the language to say how I feel that vibe is there, but a lot of people have written about it

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 day ago (1 children)

In this case, it's not even a white thing. Purely a cultural thing, a lack concern about LGBT communities that don't speak English.

Btw, this is not mere observation from the sidelines. I live in Ukraine and have a modicum of exposure to the local LGBT community.

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[–] [email protected] 37 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (9 children)

I find that trashing on all of Lemmy development and lemmy.ml from nutomic's one questionable stance to be a little idiotic, but that's just my opinion. Those things are the work of more than just one person. Dessalines is a heavy lifter in moderation and development, and they're pretty decent. Various contributors have provided code/features, translations, apps and interfaces to Lemmy. Moderators of all server types have their own opinions on stuff.

But to an extent we all have to put that aside, because face it, perfectly sanitized opinions have nothing to do with code quality. We all have a couple shitty opinions, but what makes someone a decent human being and not a bigot is recognizing where their actions and opinions cause harm unto others and try to minimize that. This harm reduction can include changing actions and opinions, but it can also be keeping harmful actions and opinions away from people it would harm. This is where Ada probably sees banning nutomic from the instance as sufficient rather than all of .ml

Yeah, the whole China/Russia can do no wrong sort of thing is a pervasive problem on Lemmy.ml, but likewise they keep moderation of that to within the confines of their instance. The running costs of a server are virtually nothing compared to cost of working full-time to maintain software, so most donations don't really go to hosting the .ml server itself but rather to development. I don't personally agree with the .ml admins on many things, but I'll defend them for allowing others to run online communities how they want in return for letting every one of us do the same. I've likewise defended Ada's decisions on how they want to root out transphobia from their server, that's their choice, and so far it seems to have served Blahaj users well.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Nutomic is banned from blahaj anyway.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago

That alone isn’t exactly hard to have happen.

[–] [email protected] 34 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Personally the sooner we rip off that bandaid, the better. .ml is far from the only activity pub project out there, but they are absolutely one of the most toxic forces on the fediverse and seriously harm the on boarding experience for new users. Nutomic is a bigot and a liar and Dessalines is a cringe keyboard warrior and nobody would put up with them if they weren't writing code. But if Lemmy is no longer the only mature option for federated social media, why should we continue to tolerate their shit?

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (27 children)

I think this is an inconsistent move from the Blahaj team. They defederated feddit over one transphobic user who the admins wouldn't deal with. And I agree with that decision. They should make the same decision here. If lemmy.ml won't ban Nutomic, then it's clear they aren't interested in creating a safe environment for trans people.

Regardless of any funding question, I think every instance should be questioning federation with .ml over their acceptance of Nutomic. And that goes double for any instance committed to inclusivity, because they have a responsibility to their users to uphold the values those users expect.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 day ago

I don't think it's inconsistent. My understanding is that the bad comments were in private messages and although they don't disown then or apologise for their views, they are not making transphobic comments in threads.

In the feddit case, transphobia discourse was active and unmoderated. I have no doubt that if that was the case for .ml, then blahaj would defederate.

There is no point in federation of you defederate from every instance with bad users. Ban the user, not the instance. In the case of an instance not moderating hateful content, ban the instance.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Just to clarify, the defederation from feddit.uk has more to do with the admins allowing transphobic comments to remain because of the EHRC ruling and then ghosting Ada when asked to clarify their policies around dealing with transphobia. It wasn't just one user.

I still agree with considering lemmy.ml for defederation.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 day ago (2 children)

the admins allowing transphobic comments to remain

This is a pretty blahaj-centric view of what happened. Their definition of “transphobia” includes “I feel like women with super high testosterone levels competing in women’s sports does get into kind of a legitimate gray area,” “I don’t think dragon is a gender and this person is clearly a malicious troll,” and “dude.”

I don’t think anyone on Lemmy is down with unambiguous transphobia, but blahaj likes to take sort-of-maybe-arguably transphobic or questionable comments and pretend they are Hitler-level hatefulness and then ban anyone who refuses to see it in their 100% un nuanced way.

ghosting Ada when asked to clarify their policies around dealing with transphobia

When did this happen? I mean, they don’t really owe her an explanation, they can run their server the way they want just like she can hers.

If I went to Ada and started demanding she “clarify” her policies on dragon centered trolling she probably wouldn’t spend too much time giving me extensive clarifications on it. Nor should I be able to demand that she needs to.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago (2 children)

then ghosting Ada

Source? That's not what the feddit.uk admins said.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

As a feddit.nl user it would help if you included the TLD, there are several servers that call themselves feddit. 😊

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 day ago (8 children)

Blahaj is a shit place, so no surprise. You can support the biggest warmongers and dictators on planet earth, but as long as you dont't have some mild criticism of the lgbtq community, you're good to go.

Pathetic instance with a really fucked up moral compass.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 day ago

mild criticism

You misspelled “totally innocent unrelated comment which stepped on some kind of weird and arbitrary rule which they will swear is hateful and proof you are a bad person on purpose, BAN!”

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 day ago

Can that hypocrite leave already?

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