How to link users directly to my server space vs. matrix.to? (feddit.org)

submitted 4 weeks ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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I set up a Cinny instance. If I link users directly to the Cinny instance it prompts them to create an account on my Matrix server but then they have to manually search for the space to join. If I grab the link directly to my space from Cinny, it links to matrix.to as an intermediary, which will prompt them to sign up with the matrix.org instance, which I DO NOT WANT. Is there no way to send an invite directly from/to my Cinny instance/space? You can only send invites via matrix.to?

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[-] [email protected] 1 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago)

This isn't possible via matrix.to, they only allow you to pre-set a small list of pre-approved web clients. I think you could maybe self-host matrix.to, to get what you want?

I haven't self-hosted Cinny, but I do have an element instance. Using that, simply copying the url from the address bar, works. That takes them to page that allows them to sign up on my instance, and then join the room/space.

Does this work with Cinny?

Alternatively, you can give them the link to your web client, and the room/space address, separately. That will both allow them to sign up, and then join the room/space using the address.

[-] [email protected] -1 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago)

This isn't possible via matrix.to

I'm specifically trying to avoid using matrix.to

simply copying the url from the address bar

What URL?

Alternatively, you can give them the link to your web client, and the room/space address, separately

The point is to simplify the process.

[-] [email protected] 1 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago)

The one in the address bar of the browser. Not sure you can get it some other way, copying the link from inside element also produces matrix.to links.

In element, when you go to that address (on a new device that isn't logged in), you get:

Just checked, and Cinny doesn't seem to support this. They only do matrix.to, so I suspect you'd need your own matrix.to instance to create links that work the way you want (with Cinny).

[-] [email protected] -1 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago)

The one in the address bar of the browser.

I can put literally an infinite number of addresses in the browser. Could you be more specific?

Cinny doesn't seem to support this. They only do matrix.to

Support what?

[-] [email protected] 0 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Are you serious?

Here are step by step instructions.

Open matrix web client
Log in
Open a room you wish to get the url for
Look at the address bar

On element, this URL opens the room on any device, even if not logged in (and provides the option to either create an account, or sign into one). Cinny does not support this functionality. Entering the url without being logged in, does not work.

[-] [email protected] 0 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Are you serious?

No, this is an elaborate and unfunny joke.

Here are step by step instructions.

Thank you. I tried this and it does not take me to the space. It does the same as Cinny. Just takes me to an empty...UI. I dunno what to call it.

[-] [email protected] 1 points 3 weeks ago

It definitely works. Here is what I get when opening the sopuli lemmy instance matrix space, using a link from my instance of element.

Clicking "join" prompts me to either log in, or create an account, which on my element instance defaults to my matrix server.

[-] [email protected] 0 points 3 weeks ago

Can you send me the exact link you used so I can see it?

[-] [email protected] 1 points 3 weeks ago

No.

But the link is formatted like this: https://element.myinstanceurl.com/#/room/#sopuli:matrix.org

[-] [email protected] 1 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Yeah so I just swapped your instance with app.element.io https://app.element.io/#/room/#sopuli:matrix.org and it just takes me to a welcome/login page. Just like Cinny.

It takes you to the room because you're already logged in.

[-] [email protected] 1 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

I am not. I normally use a desktop application, I host the web client for my users.

Are you suggesting I invented this functionality that I actively use?

Here is the same url opened in firefox on my phone, where I have never accessed my matrix account via anything other than an app.

More likely, the element.io instance disables this functionality for some reason.

[-] [email protected] 1 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Are you suggesting I invented this functionality that I actively use?

I don't know what you're doing. That's what I'm trying to figure out. What is that G for in the top left of both screenshots?

More likely, the element.io instance disables this functionality for some reason.

I've tried this on several Element instances that don't work. Like this one:

https://element.catgirl.cloud/#/room/#sopuli:matrix.org

[-] [email protected] 1 points 3 weeks ago

It stands for guest. It replaces the account icon that would be visible, were I logged in.

[-] [email protected] 1 points 3 weeks ago

Did you try logging in?

I opened an app.element.io link to the sopuli space, and even though it goes directly to the welcome/login page, once I log in, it immediately opened to the sopuli space.

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